Members burton4snow Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Looking to upgrade. There are Seymour Duncans in the guitar now but it was a $500 guitar so I'm sure I could do better. I playing the bluesy stuff, classic rock, and late 70s rock. What is a good set bridge and neck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pr3Va1L Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Without doubt for me: 59' in the neck and Custom 5 in the bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members antone Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Seymour Duncan-Pearly Gates in the bridge position. Yummy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 For real PAF tones, the Lover 55's or Antiquities are, by far, the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 I don't care for the '59, I find it to be a bit muddy in the neck.I don't like the PG, too ice-picky bright. (But does do the squealy/harmonic "Sharp Dress Man" tone quite well)Don't care for the CC, it lacks highs and lows (but does do the EVH brown sound fairly well).I like the PG+ fairly well, but it's not available in after market. It has a nice full round fat bridge tone good for classic rock overdrive tone.I just got a guitar that has a Jazz in the neck (really like it) and a JB in the bridge. I'm liking the JB too. Not as definite a like as the Jazz in the neck, but I think it's got a lot of potential.I was also a little disappointed with a Classic Stack. Output was lower than I expected and I felt it was a little flat on tone.So so far I'd give a minus to the Custom CustomPearly Gates'59 NeckClassic StackAnd a plus to the JazzJBPG+The next SDs I want to try are theCustom VAlnico II Pro Strat neckI've had better luck with DiMarziosInto a JS100 a PAF Pro and FRedStock on a Custom Tele Spec. Air Norton and Tone ZoneNeck on a STeinberger Virtual PAFBut when it comes to these higher end pups I don't think it's so much a matter of bad and good, but more a matter of your playing style, rig and setup.But I must say, I wouldn't mind trying a '59 in a bridge postion. I think it's warmth might be quite nice there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by burton4snow Looking to upgrade. There are Seymour Duncans in the guitar now but it was a $500 guitar so I'm sure I could do better. I playing the bluesy stuff, classic rock, and late 70s rock. What is a good set bridge and neck? I'd say Jazz and Custom V for a fat bottom from the bridge orJazz and JB for more cut from the bridge or or substitute in a Seth Lover for the neck, good note clarity with classic tone. I didn't state above, but I bought a set of Seth Lovers to go into my CSE Gibson Studio, but I haven't gotten them installed yet. I want to get a luthier to do it right, since I'm not skilled with soldering and would worry about F'n up my baby. But the luthier I use in Seattle highly endorses the SL model pups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burton4snow Posted November 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Hey Gas Man in another thread I think you said you knew of a guy in Seattle that does good setups. Maybe I'm wrong on this. If It was you that knows could you give me more information on this. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by GAS Man I'd say Jazz and Custom V for a fat bottom from the bridge orJazz and JB for more cut from the bridge or or substitute in a Seth Lover for the neck, good note clarity with classic tone.I didn't state above, but I bought a set of Seth Lovers to go into my CSE Gibson Studio, but I haven't gotten them installed yet. I want to get a luthier to do it right, since I'm not skilled with soldering and would worry about F'n up my baby. But the luthier I use in Seattle highly endorses the SL model pups. Players "in the know" like the authentic tones of those Seth Lovers. They are amazing. You're gonna love 'em. They are exceptionally responsive to pick attack, palm muting, and you can play them off of your amp for some controlled feedback. Those really cool Les Paul tones from Clapton, Bloomfield, et. al., were partially a function of original PAF's that were NOT wax potted. The sound is much more open and raw, with a sweet high end, almost like a single coil tele pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 By the way, Warren Haynes gets his amazing tones from stock Gibson 57 Classics in his 2002 LP R8 figuretop. He swears by those 57's , but he also likes Burstbuckers. Nothing wrong with Gibson humbuckers. They invented them, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pr3Va1L Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 I can guess that a Seth Lover with a Custom 5 would rock quite a bit... With great versatility too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by burton4snow Hey Gas Man in another thread I think you said you knew of a guy in Seattle that does good setups. Maybe I'm wrong on this. If It was you that knows could you give me more information on this. thanks. Yeah, my ass is up in the Bellingham area. But I sometimes trip down to Randy Parson's shop. It is right next to the Guitar Center Store that is off of Mercer Street. It's part of the same building. He is a highly skilled luthier and he builds custom guitars as well as setup/tech work. He charges about $50 for a setup and $150 for a pro setup. With the $50 setup, he does adjust the nut slot heights which a lot of the cheaper setup tech will skip over. I've had $25 setups from folks like that which were a complete waste of the 25. So for $50, you pretty much get the whole works. For the extra hundred, that includes fret leveling, crowning and polishing. I've only had that done on a used ES335 that I had sitting around for years. I found it used for $900, but it felt like its frets had been "flat filed" so sliding to notes was uncomfortable and hard to do since my fingers would get caught on the edges of the tops of the frets. But ask him about prices. I've found he likes to keep his prices out of date on his website and booklet and then he says, "Oh where did you find that at?" http://www.parsonsguitars.com/ But he seems to be a good guy. Some day, I'll find someone closer that is more than a money clipping hack. But ya know, I hate to use ma and pa stores cuz they give you attitude if you didn't buy the guitar or pups directly from them. With Randy, it don't matter. Randy was telling me that he was making a guitar from all one piece of wood. Including the neck. That would be interesting huh. edit: And yes, he was the guy who, upon my telling him I'd be bringing him a set of Seth Lovers to install, took the time to tell me that he had recently installed them on a guitar and thought they had great articulation and individual note clarity even in chords. He's also a Burstbucker fan. Probably the BB1 and BB2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burn Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 My fave is Dimebucker, actually the only Seymour humbucker that's not unlistenably loose is that one to my ears.But I like percussive and tight, and not much else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zappa74 Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 pearly gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Josh S Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Eeenteresting - I've been looking into the Seth Lovers too, but then I figured I might just pony for some bareknuckles or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members antone Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Seymour Duncan-Pearly Gates in the bridge position. Yummy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by burton4snow Looking to upgrade. There are Seymour Duncans in the guitar now but it was a $500 guitar so I'm sure I could do better. I playing the bluesy stuff, classic rock, and late 70s rock. What is a good set bridge and neck? My favorite SD set for that type of stuff is a Pearly Gates in the bridge and an Alnico Pro II in the neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by tlbonehead My favorite SD set for that type of stuff is a Pearly Gates in the bridge and an Alnico Pro II in the neck. I'm also curious about the Alnico Pro II. I mean, I certainly like Slash's tone just fine. My one experience with the PG is in my mahogany Yamaha SG and it's just too bright and not enough bottom in that guitar for my tastes. I'd have thought it would have been a great choice since it's basically a Yammy Les Paul, so I thought I'd end up with a classic LP tone with just that "touch of Texas sizzle". But it only works for me in that gritty/high gain sort of way. But no doubt, it's a popular pickup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rand-O-Monium Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Jazz/Custom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 I think unless you are comparing them back to back, the '59, Alnico Pro II or Seth Lover will work for me in the bridge... or the JB for more output. I feel that I am pretty picky, and based purely on sound, they are pretty hard for me to tell apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members numbthumb Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by docjeffrey Players "in the know" like the authentic tones of those Seth Lovers. They are amazing. You're gonna love 'em. They are exceptionally responsive to pick attack, palm muting, and you can play them off of your amp for some controlled feedback. Those really cool Les Paul tones from Clapton, Bloomfield, et. al., were partially a function of original PAF's that were NOT wax potted. The sound is much more open and raw, with a sweet high end, almost like a single coil tele pickup. I would listen to this man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Highgrade Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 SEYMOUR DUNCAN "Live Wire" - active PU. For heavy rock and metal it eats most other PUs for breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burn Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 Originally posted by Rand-O-Monium Jazz/Custom SD Jazz Neck is INCREDIBLE for cleans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peavey_impact Posted November 11, 2006 Members Share Posted November 11, 2006 My experience with the Pearly Gates reflects GAS man's. Anemic, with almost no bass to speak of. It's become my least favorite SD pickup. The Alnico Pro II, on the other hand, is ultimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members strangegrey Posted November 12, 2006 Members Share Posted November 12, 2006 Originally posted by docjeffrey By the way, Warren Haynes gets his amazing tones from stock Gibson 57 Classics in his 2002 LP R8 figuretop. He swears by those 57's , but he also likes Burstbuckers.Nothing wrong with Gibson humbuckers. They invented them, after all. Actually, Warren's been using a pair of Pearly Gates in some of his LP's as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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