Members Jimbo513 Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I'm in the market for a new guitar. I went to a few dealers today. I live in a smaller town and none of them carry Gibson, but one shop had a used Gibson LP standard double cut. I played the Gibson, a few Epiphone LP's, and two LP knockoffs, forgot which brands. The Gibson was the worst of the bunch to me. The Epi's were good, even the knockoffs. Do I need to make a trip to a bigger store and try more Gibson models? I wouldn't mind paying a premium if that's what it takes to get a great Gibson. I guess my question is, do the expensive Gibson LP's in the $2000+ range play better than the cheaper, $1000-$1500 ones? Are vintage Gibsons better than new ones as far as feel and playability? Should I forget about Gibson and go Epiphone or another brand? I also played a Schecter C1-Elite and really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GRANKOR Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Are Gibson LP's way overpriced? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EMG_GUY Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 yes. Thread Over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phil051300 Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 ooooooooooo This should be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ID_Ghost Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 The new ones are way over priced and highly over-rated IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I've said this before If you had to build one and sell it and make a living off of it and pay all your overhead, what would you have to charge? Sure there's some economies of scale in a factory environment, but working and living in the USA ain't cheap. OTH, Fender does quite a bit for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members emuhunter Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I think you should play whatever makes you happiest at the best price, personally.When I first played a Gibson it was a Les Paul Studio, and I remember being very underwhelmed by it, honestly. I felt like it was the most overpriced piece of junk on the planet, actually. That being said, I've played much nicer studios since then. But the difference between a Studio and a Standard are huge, in my opinion. To me a Standard is EXPENSIVE, but worth the money for the sound, feel, and mojo for an honest to goodness Les Paul. BUT that doesn't mean it has to matter to you. If the Schecter really speaks to you, go with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members emuhunter Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Oh and yeah, I think they're overpriced, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Le Blur Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 gibson les paul custom is the best guitar i've ever played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UncleJesse Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Heritage is making a great guitar. They go for cheap used.The VOS gibsons are outstanding guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EMG_GUY Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I've said this beforeIf you had to build one and sell it and make a living off of it and pay all your overhead, what would you have to charge? Sure there's some economies of scale in a factory environment, but working and living in the USA ain't cheap. OTH, Fender does quite a bit for less. are you kidding me? they have no justification in selling guitars for over 3-4 grand. Im pretty sure they aren't looking through dumpsters for their next meal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I think they're overpriced too but I can't blame people who have shelled out all that dough for defending them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members songsforbears Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yeah, the LPs are incredibly overpriced, there's something worse though. Their acoustics are the most {censored}ing {censored}ty-sounding guitars EVER and they still cost an arm and a leg when my sub-$750 Taylor sounds better than EVERY ONE OF THEM. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members songsforbears Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 By the way, I should say that the Gibson Faded guitars are an outstanding guitar for the price and Gibson could (and probably will) raise the price on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UncleJesse Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Yeah, the LPs are incredibly overpriced, there's something worse though. Their acoustics are the most {censored}ing {censored}ty-sounding guitars EVER and they still cost an arm and a leg when my sub-$750 Taylor sounds better than EVERY ONE OF THEM. Rant over. It's funny. When I think about taylor acoustics I think of bright and thin. But Gibson acoustics sound really good. And it's worse that you think every gibson acoustic sounds worse than your taylor, I doubt you've played them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 As long as people still buy them, then technically they are not overpriced. Would I pay those prices? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clay sails Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Jimbo, The way economics works is: if people want to pay a given price for something, and they are able, they will. People who want the item but aren't willing to pay the listed price consider the item overpriced. Which category do you fit into? Based on your story, I'd say the latter. Therefore, yes, to you they are overpriced. However: Gibson sells very high priced guitars because they can get away with it. They haven't lasted as long as they have and impressed the quanity of people they have by producing shyte. Does that mean that a $2000 Gibson has $1500 worth of "betterness" than the $500 Schecter? Likely not. Once you get beyond a certain cost (about $100 these days) the quality goes up in small increments, if at all. Often the extra price buys: A) pretty colors and binding B) a name-brand label C) slightly more sophisticated electronics If you're wondering if you should get the Epiphone over the Gibson just because the Epi sounds better: go for it. The best judge of a guitar's value is your ears paired with your fingers. Use the money you save on a phat amplifier and a disco ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EMG_GUY Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 Jimbo,The way economics works is: if people want to pay a given price for something, and they are able, they will. People who want the item but aren't willing to pay the listed price consider the item overpriced.Which category do you fit into? Based on your story, I'd say the latter. Therefore, yes, to you they are overpriced.However:Gibson sells very high priced guitars because they can get away with it.They haven't lasted as long as they have and impressed the quanity of people they have by producing shyte. Does that mean that a $2000 Gibson has $1500 worth of "betterness" than the $500 Schecter? Likely not. Once you get beyond a certain cost (about $100 these days) the quality goes up in small increments, if at all. Often the extra price buys:A) pretty colors and bindingB) a name-brand labelC) slightly more sophisticated electronicsIf you're wondering if you should get the Epiphone over the Gibson just because the Epi sounds better: go for it. The best judge of a guitar's value is your ears paired with your fingers. Use the money you save on a phat amplifier and a disco ball. ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ESchmidt Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I dont think that they are overpriced. After all, price just reflects how scarce an item is and how much people are able and willing to pay for it. If people stopped buying gibsons, the demand would go down and in turn, so would the prices. So do your part and dont buy a gibson. Get a Fender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fender Picker Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 STFU n:mad::mad:b! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 :lol: And yes, if you mean can you get a guitar as good for less. But no if only a Gibson'll do!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members markas214 Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 No. They are underpriced. Give them an extra $5000 when you buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 I'm in the market for a new guitar. I went to a few dealers today. I live in a smaller town and none of them carry Gibson, but one shop had a used Gibson LP standard double cut. I played the Gibson, a few Epiphone LP's, and two LP knockoffs, forgot which brands.The Gibson was the worst of the bunch to me. The Epi's were good, even the knockoffs. Do I need to make a trip to a bigger store and try more Gibson models? I wouldn't mind paying a premium if that's what it takes to get a great Gibson.I guess my question is, do the expensive Gibson LP's in the $2000+ range play better than the cheaper, $1000-$1500 ones? Are vintage Gibsons better than new ones as far as feel and playability? Should I forget about Gibson and go Epiphone or another brand?I also played a Schecter C1-Elite and really like it. Overall quality of Gibsons is all over the place (imo). If you want a Gibson Les Paul then (imo) your best bet is to hunt down a used 1990's Les Paul standard. Check your local Craigslist for used deals. Stay away from and or be carefull with any re-fins. Some sneaky bastards have their LP's re-finished after they break the headstock and have it repaired. Then they sell it off and don't mention that it was broken at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members markas214 Posted November 8, 2007 Members Share Posted November 8, 2007 are you kidding me? they have no justification in selling guitars for over 3-4 grand. Im pretty sure they aren't looking through dumpsters for their next meal. As long as people are buying they can charge whatever they please. Oil comes out of the ground. In some countries the cost of retreaving a barrell of oil is less than $2.00. Oil is selling for close to $100.00 a barrel. People are getting rich while others actually are eating from dumpsters and in some parts of the world starving to death. Capitalism you gotta love it. The system where one man can own a 400 foot yacht, several jets, dozens of homes and have a net worth more than entire countries. Where a grown man has servents to tie his shoes and millions of people don't even own a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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