Members The Rossness Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 Guitar Hero controllers have a digital whammy bar. Would there be anyway to put a concept like this into a real guitar? Maybe there could be a middle neutral position- it could be pushed down for dives and pulled up just like a real floyd and always could return to position when not in use. The best part is that unlike a floyd, breaking strings or changing tunings wouldn't be a problem. Is this idea at all possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themachineisgod Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 I've been thinking about this concept for awhile. Something like a mod wheel with a whammy bar attached to it would be awesome. And it's not like the technology isn't there. Programs like Melodyne are pretty amazing in changing pitch. Guitar companies need to stop being so damn conservative and making the same Strats, LPs, and Teles with the same features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stratocaster202 Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 Having taking one apart, the trem bar itself is just a mechanical thing. It functions in the game just through frequency of movement of the arm, so it's almost certainly just a basic switch. Basically what you're talking about is an expression pedal that would be mounted onto the guitar, so it could control wah, vibe, octave anything really. That's a great idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 's mel gibson Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 The pedal already exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 I'd imagine that putting a potentiometer on a spring loaded trem arm and then wiring it up so that it controls a whammy pedal is about as close as you could get. If the guts of the pedal and a battery can fit inside the guitar even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EJD Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 That's actually a pretty awesome idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alex9152 Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 One catch: The Guitar Hero whammy unit is dive-only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 The pedal already exists. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Rossness Posted November 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 Yep. Just need to put that in a guitar. Gibson keeps puting all this electronic mumbo jumbo into their robot and darkfire axes, why not an onboard whammy pedal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 How good do those pedals actually sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members randombastage Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 I'd rather have the D beam from my VG99 built into the body of the guitar. It works great and can be programmed to control lots of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCray Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 That black strip controls MIDI devices, Whammy included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Rossness Posted November 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 That black strip controls MIDI devices, Whammy included. There's also a version of the Roland VG99 screen built into the guy form Muse's axe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dewysoss Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 Problem is, the whammy pedal and other pedals like that are digital...the pitch shifting will be exact. With a real tremolo, the strings will not necessarily slacken consistently across all 6, giving it a more "random" natural sound. TL;DR it wont sound the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hellion_213 Posted November 28, 2009 Members Share Posted November 28, 2009 Guitar Hero controllers have a digital whammy bar. Would there be anyway to put a concept like this into a real guitar? Maybe there could be a middle neutral position- it could be pushed down for dives and pulled up just like a real floyd and always could return to position when not in use. The best part is that unlike a floyd, breaking strings or changing tunings wouldn't be a problem. Is this idea at all possible? Been smokin the cheeba have we? Nah man, that's actually a pretty Killer idea you've got there! If you figure out how to do it, definitely post a how-to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Rossness Posted December 1, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have some friends who are electrical and acoustical engineers who are going to help me try this. ok- I'm going to try to mount the electronics from a Digitech whammy pedal into a guitar and use the guitar hero control arm instead of the pedal. Besides a LP, what guitars have a thick body that could be routed for something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nanobug Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Guitar companies need to stop being so damn conservative and making the same Strats, LPs, and Teles with the same features. Guitarists need to stop being so damn conservative and buy guitars other than Strats, LPs and Teles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Guitarists need to stop being so damn conservative and buy guitars other than Strats, LPs and Teles. amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EJD Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I have some friends who are electrical and acoustical engineers who are going to help me try this.ok- I'm going to try to mount the electronics from a Digitech whammy pedal into a guitar and use the guitar hero control arm instead of the pedal. Besides a LP, what guitars have a thick body that could be routed for something like this? I fully encourage you to try, and to keep us updated! But, personally, what I would do is have a tremolo arm that's hinged and sprung, linked to a pot or something, and have this go out into a Digitech Whammy to control the pedal from the guitar. I don't want to put you off or anything, but I personally think that putting a whole whammy pedal's electronics in there would be huge, bulky, heavy, and you'd need an external power source. But, do try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Poster Nutbag Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I've thought of this too - if it were me, for proof of concept and to see how it actually plays and handles in real life, I'd just run another lead from a gutted whammy to a potentiometer on the guitar. That way you get up and running by just swapping pots and running an extension lead to the pedal, then if you're loving it you can think about moving all the electronics and battery to the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mikey4402 Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 I would love to have a whammy pedal in my guitar but i dont think the benefits would be worth the extra weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JesusCrisp Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 Line 6 will put it on their next Variax I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted December 1, 2009 Members Share Posted December 1, 2009 As mentioned, guitars produce an analog signal, not the digital you'd need for your idea. You could add the digital electronics to the guitar, but I don't see many people buying into it. Digital electronics still consume a lot of power. You'd be changing a 9V battery every few hours or you'd have to run a separate power cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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