Members redkadinger Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hi Gang I looking for honest opinions from anyone that has experience with Yamaha club series speakers and P series amps. I need to propose a system for a friend that needs it for church. What im thinking is two SW218V powered by a P7000S and two S215V powered by a P7000S. Would this be something I could be proud of or is it shameful junk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarharv52 Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I like my clubs.I have the 12in monitors, single 15's, and single 18's.Have not heard the dual 15's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redkadinger Posted February 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 thats the big system proposal they may opt for a smaller rig and that being single 15"s and single 18"s. What are you powering yours with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hamer Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 Hi Gang I looking for honest opinions from anyone that has experience with Yamaha club series speakers and P series amps. I need to propose a system for a friend that needs it for church. What im thinking is two SW218V powered by a P7000S and two S215V powered by a P7000S. Would this be something I could be proud of or is it shameful junk? I have club 15s that are make for mains or monitors when i do a larger gig i use them with my elites 408 ,the elites sound much better but the yamaha are ok If i didnt have the elites to compare them too Id probley think they are fine,NEVER have had a problems with them and they seem to be built like a tank,sure are heavy!this is them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassred Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I use the single 15's for tops and the single 2's for monitors. They aren't 'Pro' in that they don't sound like the boxes we sen out to large venues, but for bar gigs/ church setup, you can;t do better for the price. I like the way they sound, and they are nice and light... Have heard rough reviews of the subs, and I'm not a fan of 2X15 boxes (assuming those would be the tops....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hamer Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I use the single 15's for tops and the single 2's for monitors. They aren't 'Pro' in that they don't sound like the boxes we sen out to large venues, but for bar gigs/ church setup, you can;t do better for the price. I like the way they sound, and they are nice and light... Have heard rough reviews of the subs, and I'm not a fan of 2X15 boxes (assuming those would be the tops....) you think they are light? 60 pounds . every time i load them they feel pretty heavy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flanc Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I think you can do better on subs (Peavey, Sonic in that price range). Double 15 tops tend to be muddy. The Yamaha 15 and 12 clubs speakers are nice for the money. They sound good but get harsh sounding if you try to push them hard. My .02 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarharv52 Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 thats the big system proposal they may opt for a smaller rig and that being single 15"s and single 18"s. What are you powering yours with? I have powered them either with QSC1450 tops/2450 subs or the tops with a Yamaha 5014 powered mixer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marko Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 Another vote for Yamaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redkadinger Posted February 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 thats some great info guys thanks for your posts. I will rethink the tops and probably suggest the single 15"s. How bout the p series amps anyone used them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarharv52 Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 A lot of people seem to like them.I already had the QSC's or would have looked at the lighter Yamahas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bassred Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 60 pounds is nothing, you should load a show with me some day... L'Acoustics Arcs and our home-grown 15 and a horn tops are monsters. I can put the yammies on the stick with no assistance, that's what I call light. The monitors are nothing near 60 lbs, they feel like toys some times (one day I had been working on our Firehouse designed wedges at work, which are hefty little 12 and a horns, then I went to set up with my band and damn-near threw the monitor when I went to pick it up.... Guess I forgot to switch my brain to Yammie mode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1tallbassguy Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have the club IV's (S115IV) and they sound very good to me. I use the P5000 amp. Excellent amp, no problems for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hamer Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 60 pounds is nothing, you should load a show with me some day... L'Acoustics Arcs and our home-grown 15 and a horn tops are monsters. I can put the yammies on the stick with no assistance, that's what I call light. The monitors are nothing near 60 lbs, they feel like toys some times (one day I had been working on our Firehouse designed wedges at work, which are hefty little 12 and a horns, then I went to set up with my band and damn-near threw the monitor when I went to pick it up.... Guess I forgot to switch my brain to Yammie mode) ok im a wimp! mine do wieght 60 pounds tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Al Poulin Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 thats some great info guys thanks for your posts. I will rethink the tops and probably suggest the single 15"s. How bout the p series amps anyone used them? I've owned the older P3200 and more recently the P5000. I loved both and both gave me years of trouble free service. The P5000 and P7000 are amazingly light and amazingly powerful. They look pretty cool too. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members witesol Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I own and regularly use a bunch of Yamaha club series. They work great. I agree that the dual 15 tops isn't quite the right direction. I prefer having two horns instead and would suggest 2 S112Vs each side. You'll get a smoother more balanced coverage, great vocals. The P series amps work well and are light weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 Hi Gang I looking for honest opinions from anyone that has experience with Yamaha club series speakers and P series amps. I need to propose a system for a friend that needs it for church. What im thinking is two SW218V powered by a P7000S and two S215V powered by a P7000S. Would this be something I could be proud of or is it shameful junk? Not junk, but poor choices, IMO. You don't want dual 15", especially w/subs, and definitely not in this price range. And the Yam subs always seem pretty weak. The FR cabs are ok, but there are other cabs for similar or a little less money that I'd rather have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ATOMICDOG1 Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have a bunch of the Club IV 115m wedges. They are great for the money, we use them in most of our club/bar gigs. We don't get any complaints about them. The reason I like them is because they sound decent, you can get good volume out of them, I can run a little bass thru them if I have to, and most importaint is that when the drunks spill their drinks into the horns and cook them the eminence drivers are cheap and easy to either replace or fix. ...Not thats usually a problem for a church, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted February 13, 2007 CMS Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 I agree with a lot of the points made in this thread: The subs are weak. IMO for similar money consider the Peavey SP-118 and SP218. The 1x15 and 1x12 are good performers...plenty of volume, easy to EQ, doesn't sound bad, though they can be harsh if driven really hard without EQ. Forget the 2x15 arrangement. This is a very common mistake for beginners....it's got more drivers and it's bigger, so it must be an improvement, right? Nope. Until you get up into the $1000+ price range, most are muddy, but don't deliver the bass response they're hyped for. I would consider the Peavey SP series, or some of the good Yorkville alternatives in the same price range, and decide based upon what sounds best and importantly, what is available and serviced locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I wouldn't consider 60 lbs light either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members redkadinger Posted February 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 One thing I need to mention is that I am aware that there are other brands that may be a better choice. Howeve for loyalty resons my client (a good friend) wants to work with a certin dealer that is only able to deliver Yamaha products. I am completly ruling out the dual 15"s. What I was trying to acomplish was geting the tops to a 4ohm load and I think putting two of the single 12"s on each side of a P5000S would do nicely. So the system would be. SW218VSW218VPowered by a P7000SS112VS112VS112VS112VPowered by a P5000S What ya all think of that? Also this is to be put into a room of about 40' x 60' 15' celling with a recesed stage thats about 2' high 30' x 15'. lots of wood and a bit on the reflective side. what would be the best way to stack all this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think their subs are weak, whether it is Monday or Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paulwannabe Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have been using Yamaha gear for a couple of years, and I have been very pleased. I actually run two 15" clubs and two single 18" club subs on one P5000S amp. I am able to do this because of the built-in crossover that the P series amps have. Each of the internal amplifiers has a switch on the back that allows you to either cut out the lows for the mains, or to cut out the highs for the subwoofers. There is also a knob which allows you to select the cutoff frequency. So all I have to do is daisy chain the 15"s on one amp, and do the same with the subs on the other, and then just use the filters on the back, setting the mains on low-cut at about 60Hz, and cutting out the highs on the subs at about 90Hz. There is also a Yamaha Speaker Processing switch which is designed to boost the bass response in the mains, and is tailored to the club series speakers. This works well for non-live situations where you will be playing back recorded music. The in and out options on the P series amps are great, too. You have a choice of XLR or TRS inputs, and binding post, speakon, and 1/4" speaker outputs. This is one of the few amplifiers I could find that had 1/4" speaker outputs. I know it's probably not as good as using Speakons, but the cables sure are cheaper, and it suits me fine. Overall, Yamaha has made me very happy, and I definitely recommend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hamer Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 I wouldn't consider 60 lbs light either. Thanks for the back-up agedhorse maybe im not a wimp! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted February 14, 2007 Members Share Posted February 14, 2007 The in and out options on the P series amps are great, too. You have a choice of XLR or TRS inputs, and binding post, speakon, and 1/4" speaker outputs. This is one of the few amplifiers I could find that had 1/4" speaker outputs. I know it's probably not as good as using Speakons, but the cables sure are cheaper, and it suits me fine. QUOTE]If that's your reason for choosing an amp, why not just use some binding post to 1/4" pigtails like most of us used to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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