Members Plink Floyd Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 The wanderlust is upon my clan. Is the RRHOF worth a four hour drive? I think I could skip it, but my 15 year old shredder lobbies mightily. I think I'd prefer the Henry Ford/Edison museum, but we may roll both into one trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mididoc Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 It is most DEFINITELY worth it. It is not all inclusive however - there are MANY important artists missing still. But what is there is awesome and well done. You really need more than a day to do it right. Although some get in and out in a few hours and feel satisfied. Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nice keetee Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 The wanderlust is upon my clan. Is the RRHOF worth a four hour drive? I think I could skip it, but my 15 year old shredder lobbies mightily. I think I'd prefer the Henry Ford/Edison museum, but we may roll both into one trip. I'll probably never live to see either, so I say go to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sfarfsky Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 I'd check out both of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members McHale Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 There's one whole room dedicated to rap. It almost made me cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 One sales strategy of the music industry is to give the product an air of 'importance' and 'mythical status' in order to extend sales past the usual 17 weeks. The country music branch of the industry is brilliant at this and the pop branch (rock & roll subsection) has noticed. MEH [video=youtube;zlSLQO5mU-w] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gribs Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 I fall on the Doug Gifford side of the coin and agree with the "mystique" factor that the music business tries to use to sell product and I am also "meh" over "Hall of Fame" for whatever. However, if your kid is into it and the trip would make for a good family activity then I am all for it. The "aspie" in me says that engaging in such family activities are part of the work I signed up for when I signed up to be a dad. I get my enjoyment from spending time with my family and watching my wife and kids having fun, not necessarily from the specific activity itself. For me personally the fact that I would have to drive for four hours for just one (or even two) things to do scratches the activity off the possible list of things to do. I hate driving long distances, and will do so only if I am going to be engaged essentially for an entire week. Also my younger kids still do not travel well, even for trips lasting about 2-3 hours. Last summer we took a very short trip to Duluth for 5 days to stay at a water park hotel and visit all sorts of interesting spots within about a 50 mile radius. I had to pull over and sit for 15 minutes on the way home (only about 2.5 hour drive) to wait for a temper tantrum my daughter was having to dissipate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 There are two classes of travel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Synthaholic Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 Don't forget to kneel at the altar of legendary rock gods ABBA and Madonna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sonik Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 The HOF as an institution and it's inductees are debate, however as a museum it's pretty damn cool. Well worth the visit in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 It's an interesting building designed by I. M. Pei, dude who did the Louvre addition. It's not that big surprisingly. Yeah, it's worth a visit. When I went they had the Sgt Pepper costumes. Those were skinny fellas! It's on the lake and there is a nice view all around. If it were me I'd combine it with a trip to the Cleveland Museum of Art or catch a show at Playhouse Square, lots happening there. The inductees for the RHOF are a whole 'nother sad story, but I digress. I played in the band for the 2009 ceremony, one of the most awesome gigs I've ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffLearman Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 Never been to the R&RHOF, but I agree with Gribs that if kids are into it, it's worthwhile for that reason alone. On the other hand, I've been to Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village a number of times, and it ranks very high on my scale. If you're even a tiny bit into trains, it's not to be missed. While many find the farm implement historical exhibit a snooze, I think it's fascinating, to see every tiny engineering advance from the hand hoe to a modern combine. Any kids under age 99 would love the car exhibits. Did I mention steam engines? oh my. Sorry, I'm an engineering nerd, but really ... it's a great museum. Really: top notch, from either scholarly or everyday joe point of view. Greenfield village is probably more interesting to a wider variety of people, especially kids. Either HFM or GV is worth a full day, but it's nice to do both in one visit too. As variable as MI weather is, I'd buy the full pass and go to the village when it's nice out & head for the museum if clouds roll in. I wouldn't R&RHOF and HFM/GV into a day trip, since they're 3 hours apart. Another thing in the Cleveland area that's definitely worth a visit: Cedar Point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tim gueguen Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 It really should be called the Cleveland Rock and Pop Music Museum. Remove the ridiculous idea that you can have a Hall of Fame for something subjective like art. Can you imagine if someone started the Painting Hall of Fame? They'd be laughed at for the rest of their life for coming up with such a silly idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Karma1 Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 I'd be interested to see it, although it's not likely I ever will. I was disappointed when they chose the location for the museum. I'm absolutely not saying anything negative about Cleveland as a city, it's just that from a purely logistical standpoint, a lot of people will miss out on seeing the museum. Most people from the US and other countries at some point visit New York or LA and it seems like those would have been a more logical choices. I've lived in the midwest and can appreciate that people in that area must be thrilled and proud to have the distinction of having the museum there, but it just seems like a limiting factor in terms of wider attendance and accessibility. Although I'm sure that if I lived there, I'd be very happy that my area was chosen for that honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suilebhain Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 It should actually be called The Rolling Stone Rock and Roll Museum, brought to you by Rolling Stone Magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Timelord Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 It should actually be called The Rolling Stone Rock and Roll Museum, brought to you by Rolling Stone Magazine. The RRHF and Cleveland deserve each other!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted September 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thanks for all of your thoughts. As expected, they run the gamut. Like most of you, I don't care about the self appointed body of experts who arbitrarily award fame. I'll make up my own mind about that, thank you very much. But I think my family (and even me) would enjoy some of the exibits. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the Henry Ford more, but, maybe I'll be surprised. We plan on three or four days to see both spots. If it were me I'd combine it with a trip to the Cleveland Museum of Art or catch a show at Playhouse Square, lots happening there.Any chance of catching a Cygnus performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted September 29, 2011 Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thanks for all of your thoughts. As expected, they run the gamut. Like most of you, I don't care about the self appointed body of experts who arbitrarily award fame. I'll make up my own mind about that, thank you very much. But I think my family (and even me) would enjoy some of the exibits. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy the Henry Ford more, but, maybe I'll be surprised. We plan on three or four days to see both spots. Any chance of catching a Cygnus performance? It depends on when your trip is, I have a zillion gigs coming up. If I'm in town I'll try to say howdy. I was disappointed when they chose the location for the museum. I'm absolutely not saying anything negative about Cleveland as a city, it's just that from a purely logistical standpoint, a lot of people will miss out on seeing the museum. Most people from the US and other countries at some point visit New York or LA and it seems like those would have been a more logical choices. I've lived in the midwest and can appreciate that people in that area must be thrilled and proud to have the distinction of having the museum there, but it just seems like a limiting factor in terms of wider attendance and accessibility. Although I'm sure that if I lived there, I'd be very happy that my area was chosen for that honor. From the Rock Hall, one can walk about 10 blocks to Playhouse Square. There is a plaque outside one of the buildings, in honor of the words that were spoken for the first time at the radio station previously in that building: "Rock and Roll". Historically, there are many reasons in addition that Cleveland is where the rock hall belongs. Museums are about history after all, and the history of Rock is Cleveland: the Moondog Coronation Ball was THE first rock concert. Alan Freed, WMMS radio (home of the Buzzard:cool:), the Agora, Richfield Coliseum. Cleveland was the shiznit. L.A. is for yuppie quiche-eaters, NYC can keep their Wall Street snobs: Cleveland is blue collar and proud of it. Some Canadian band put out an album and nobody bought it or played it. Someone at WMMS radio loved the album and added "Working Man" to their regular playlist. RUSH was born in Cleveland, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Plink Floyd Posted September 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 I'll have to watch "American Hot Wax" again. I'll tell my son it's a prerequisit. I'm thinking Halloween weekend is when we're coming. Car travel with kids: I've been pretty successful, even on all day rides. We never let our kids watch all the TV they wanted, so when travel time is here, I set up the DVD player & headphone splitters in the car and recind all mind rot restraints. Works like a charm: kids are hypnotized all day & P & M can actually talk for a few hours. And/or nap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pogo97 Posted September 29, 2011 Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 ... & P & M can actually talk for a few hours. Plink and Magentle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted September 29, 2011 Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 There are two world-class, must see destinations in Cleveland that will change your life and inspire your kids: 1. "A Christmas Story house". That's right, you heard right. It's the house. It's in a crummy 'hood. You can see the leg lamp. http://www.achristmasstoryhouse.com/ 2. The Free Stamp. It's like the Statue of Liberty, except it's a big stamp. It says "free". Why? Nobody knows. It's near the RH. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Park_(Cleveland_park) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AJP Posted September 29, 2011 Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 It really should be called the Cleveland Rock and Pop Music Museum. Remove the ridiculous idea that you can have a Hall of Fame for something subjective like art. Can you imagine if someone started the Painting Hall of Fame? They'd be laughed at for the rest of their life for coming up with such a silly idea. Wow, that is an EXCELLENT point; never thought of it like that. Anyways, I live 20 minutes from it and it sat there for 15 years before I finally went (well, my old wedding band played a private gig there a while back but we didn't go in past the lobby; doesn't count). I'd say it would be worth the drive. I'd also HIGHLY recomment Cleveland's Little Italy if you like to enjoy good food (Trattoria's on the Hill is my favorite). There's a lot of c(rap) in the Rock Hall to be sure, but to see some of the stuff that was actually touched/used/played by someone who may or may not be one of your favorite musicians, yeah. For example, I was pretty impressed looking at little things like the hand-scribbled lyrics to "Walk This Way". And the Genesis case with Tony's Pro-Soloist, Mike's dounble-neck Rickenbacker and Pete's Rael jacket... I gotta confess, may have gotten me a little teary-eyed. Finally, I picked up come cool coasters for beers in the man-cave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gribs Posted September 29, 2011 Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 Greenfield village is probably more interesting to a wider variety of people, especially kids. Either HFM or GV is worth a full day, but it's nice to do both in one visit too. As variable as MI weather is, I'd buy the full pass and go to the village when it's nice out & head for the museum if clouds roll in. Those both sound like they would be more interesting to everyone in my family, from age 5 to age 46. Wife and I both love history, our 13-year old is into history and engineering stuff, and the younger kids like machinery of any kind, especially trains. When we go on a family vacation or even when taking day trips at home, we do one place per day and only a few hours. Everyone gets wiped after that. Then we go sit down, relax, have some food, and maybe take a snooze for a while. On away trips the afternoon times are spent at the pool or water park, then more eating and relaxing. Kids get burned out really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted September 29, 2011 Members Share Posted September 29, 2011 It really should be called the Cleveland Rock and Pop Music Museum. Remove the ridiculous idea that you can have a Hall of Fame for something subjective like art. Can you imagine if someone started the Painting Hall of Fame? They'd be laughed at for the rest of their life for coming up with such a silly idea. There are actually two parts to it: The museum is the main place. There is a separate area in the building that is the "Hall of Fame". There is also another new building at the Community college that has a library and archives, it's not open yet. I do agree with you, "Hall of Fame" for rock is silly, but it's a museum first and hall of fame second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted September 30, 2011 Members Share Posted September 30, 2011 Say... Why isn't there a "Symphonic Hall of Fame"? I might actually go to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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