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  • Because (IMHExperience) Sonar and X2 don't get along too well. Sonar frequently suffers the White Screen of Sloth when I load X2, and sometimes just doesn't make it, forcing me to "kill app" or even to reboot. Then loading one of E-MUs copy-protected (C-Dilla) libraries is the next hurdle. I actively avoid using X2 with Sonar, unless it's the only way to achieve something.

    In fairness, I have heard no-one else complaining about this, although many users seem to have problems with Proteus X2, which I presume shares a lot of code with Emulator X2.

    Sorry to respond so late to your post!


    so far i haven't noticed any problems...X2 seems to load pretty slow all the time for me ...

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    • No I haven't, but I think it's likely that PC Audio Labs already applied it unless it just came out within the past couple months. Do you know where to find the patch, and also, how to tell if it's installed on my machine?

      Thanks again.


      Hey Craig,

      Check out this link:
      http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=60416

      Best,
      Scott

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      • Thanks Scott! I'll check out adding the hotfix.
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        • Cakewalk is getting aggressive about expansion packs for Dimension Pro and Rapture. Apparently the instruments are doing well, and Cakewalk wants to "fuel the fire." I have no idea whether the original Dim Pro patches will be made available separately, but if the instruments continue to do well, I expect that you will see more support for them.


          I almost thought I had a second chance to upgrade to Dim Pro for $99 from the Dim LE which came with my Sonar Home Studio 6 XL with a confusing 5 day offer from Cakewalk, but it appears that you have to also buy/upgarde to Sonar 7 to qualify.

          How is the content which comes with Dimension Pro out of the box? I know this is subjective, but if it is really that great, maybe it's even worth the normal customer price of $149 - but I have nothing to compare it to.

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          • Hello everyone,

            I am new to this forum and was hoping that I could get some answers to the following questions:

            1) Does SONAR 7 allow you to create a professional sounding recording using strictly MIDI (e.g. no audio input from keyboards)? I have an $80 software package called Magix Midi Studio and the standard patches don't sound very realistic so I was wondering if purchasing the more expensive SONAR 7 instead of a super expensive workstation like the Roland G70 is enough.

            2) Does SONAR 7 have a vocal harmonizer and is it any good?

            3) Does SONAR 7 have anything to enhance your vocals like, for example, automatically adjust the vocals should you momentarily go out of pitch?

            4) Does SONAR 7 have anything to alter your vocals like make a man's voice sound like a woman's voice, for example?

            5) Does SONAR 7 do MIDI to WAV without you actually having to take the output on the sound card and feed it into the input on the sound card? Magix MIDI studio does something called "bouncing" but only on audio tracks, not MIDI tracks. The Magix FAQs say that you can't bounce MIDI. Does SONAR 7 have a way to do this?

            6) Does SONAR 7 have real electric guitar sounding patches and does it mimic downstrokes and upstrokes?

            7) I assume that, in the end, the realism of the sounds really depend on the sound card. What sound card would best produce realistic sounds from MIDI?

            8) Can SONAR 7 change your voice from one key to another without speeding up or slowing down the recording?

            Thank you.

            Rigoberto

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            • 1) Yes, you'll find some acoustic sounds in Dimension LE and DropZone, however, if you're looking for super-realistic (as in 24-bit samples with many different articulations, you'll have to invest in an expensive sound library like the ones available from East West). Either that or you can also use audio loops that provide pre-recorded realistic performances.

              2) Not something that is automatic, but you can experiment with the included V-Vocal to create your own harmonies.

              3) Yes, the built-in V-Vocal processor.

              4) No, not really. Again, you can experiment with V-Vocal to change the pitch and formant of the vocal part to get various results.

              5) Yes, you can easily bounce or freeze a MIDI track that is driving a software synth, which converts it to audio automatically.

              6) Same answer as #1.

              7) No, it depends on the quality of the sample library of the soft synth that you are using for MIDI playback. However, a good soundcard is needed for high-quality audio output of your final production. Cakewalk has a list of recommended cards on their site at:
              http://www.cakewalk.com/Tips/audiohw.asp

              8) Yes, you can use V-Vocal for that.

              I'm sure you'll get some more info from others here as well, but suffice it to say, Sonar is an excellent piece of software.

              Scott

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              Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/

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              • Hi

                I'm brand new to this forum and to Sonar 7, having escaped from Cubase which I found tough to get on with. I almost gave up but was told that Sonar is far more intuitive.

                Thanks so much for this thread - I've learned a lot from it.

                I have also ordered Scott's book, which I'm sure will also be a great.

                I'll not ask any questions yet, as I havent finished the user's guide and I know how irritating questions can be when the obvious answer is RT(F)M!

                I am confused, however. Several posts have referred to a 'VST folder'. Looking at my Sonar 7 folder in Windows Explorer, I can't see it as a first level folder; I'm worried that I may have not installed everything correctly, but will keep looking.

                Thanks again to everyone; I must say that a) not having to use a USB dongle, b) the laid back and friendly attitude of everyone compared to the Cubase forum, c) the readability of the user guide and d) Cakewalk's generosity in the competitive cross-grade price, have all made for a great first impression

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                • Hello everyone,

                  I am new to this forum and was hoping that I could get some answers to the following questions:


                  Scott pretty much covered the answers, but here are some additional comments.

                  1) Does SONAR 7 allow you to create a professional sounding recording using strictly MIDI (e.g. no audio input from keyboards)?


                  Scott assumed that by "realistic" you mean acoustic sounds, but be aware that Sonar lets you make a lot of realistic synth sounds, like Minimoog emulations.

                  2) Does SONAR 7 have a vocal harmonizer and is it any good?

                  3) Does SONAR 7 have anything to enhance your vocals like, for example, automatically adjust the vocals should you momentarily go out of pitch?

                  4) Does SONAR 7 have anything to alter your vocals like make a man's voice sound like a woman's voice, for example?

                  8) Can SONAR 7 change your voice from one key to another without speeding up or slowing down the recording?


                  These all relate to the V-Vocal vocal processor. Remember that these types of products can only do so much. If you want to transpose your voice a fifth above, you're not going to get very realistic results but if you just need to fix some pitch issues here and there, it works just fine. Also in terms of enhancing vocals, Sonar has compressors, equalizers, reverb and the like, which can also improve the sound of vocals.

                  7) I assume that, in the end, the realism of the sounds really depend on the sound card. What sound card would best produce realistic sounds from MIDI?


                  You might be assuming a sound card with built-in sounds...but with Sonar, the TTS-1 synthesizer provides a decent set of General MIDI sounds (piano, guitar, strings, brass, etc.) so you want a sound card that's optimized for audio quality.

                  In addition to looking on the Cakewalk site, I've found the Line 6 KB37 to be an all-around useful interface. It includes audio interfacing but also a keyboard that's useful for entering MIDI parts.
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                  • Thank you Scott and Craig for your very informative answers.

                    Rigoberto

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                    • I have also ordered Scott's book, which I'm sure will also be a great.

                      I'll not ask any questions yet, as I havent finished the user's guide and I know how irritating questions can be when the obvious answer is RT(F)M!

                      I am confused, however. Several posts have referred to a 'VST folder'. Looking at my Sonar 7 folder in Windows Explorer, I can't see it as a first level folder; I'm worried that I may have not installed everything correctly, but will keep looking.


                      Hi Healing Spirit,

                      Thanks for purchasing my book! I hope you enjoy it.

                      To find the VST folders that Sonar is using on your system, in Sonar choose Options > Global > VST Plug-Ins. That box lists all the VST folders that Sonar looks to find any VST plug-ins you are using. You can also change the folders, add new folders, etc.

                      Scott

                      --
                      Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/

                      Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free Absynth 3 or Kontakt 2 DVD Tutorial, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/

                      Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free WWF Slam Cam digital camera, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/

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                      • Be aware that programs often install their own folders for VST plug-ins. For example, Cubase will install one in the Steinberg folder.

                        What I do is create a single VST plug-ins folder within the Programs folder on the root drive (i.e., C:\Programs\VSTplugins). When I install a program, I always choose that as the place to install VST plug-ins, and tell the programs that's where to look for VST plug-ins by setting the file path (as Scott describes above for Sonar).

                        Another consideration is that most programs let you specify more than one VST plug-ins folder. This is very useful if you encounter plug-ins that work in some programs but not in others: I have a "problematic plug-ins" folder that some programs look in for plug-ins, but which is excluded from other programs.

                        However, in that respect, note that Sonar has sophisticated plug-in management options that let you exclude, rename, re-order, etc. plug-ins. This is part of the extensive customization that Sonar allows, and to me, is one of the program's strongest points.
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                        • Thank you kind sirs!

                          I look forward to hours of fun learning this prog... I'm sure I'll be asking for help before long!

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                          • Well, you've found the right place to ask But let me also remind you that the Cakewalk forums are excellent. Many people consider them a valuable extra "feature" of the program.

                            And again, props to Scott for his participation!
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                            • And again, props to Scott for his participation!


                              Hey Craig,

                              No problem. I'm glad to help out...

                              By the way, nice job on the December issue of EQ. I really enjoyed your Sounds of the Psychedelic Era article. Very groovy, man...

                              Scott

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                              Scott R. Garrigus - Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series. Get Sonar 7 Power & Sound Forge 8 Power - Today! Go to: http://www.garrigus.com/

                              Publisher of DigiFreq - free music technology newsletter. Win a free Absynth 3 or Kontakt 2 DVD Tutorial, go to: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/

                              Publisher of NewTechReview - free consumer technology newsletter. Win a free WWF Slam Cam digital camera, go to: http://www.newtechreview.com/newtechreview/

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                              • Thanks Scott, the December issue of EQ is getting a very strong and favorable response so you're not alone!

                                We now return to our regularly scheduled programming. Let's get into how V-Vocal does pitch-to-MIDI....
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