Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'm usually a Gibson snob but I was thinking about buying an Epi LP. I would replace the tuners and maybe some other hardware, which is no sweat, but my one concern is the weight-relieved body. I think it's only 8.25 pounds. I'm worried it's not going to have that chuncky "LP" sound. amright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ΨWindingΨ Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'm usually a Gibson snob but I was thinking about buying an Epi LP. I would replace the tuners and maybe some other hardware, which is no sweat, but my one concern is the weight-relieved body. I think it's only 8.25 pounds. I'm worried it's not going to have that chuncky "LP" sound. amright? My REAL Gibson Historic R9 (Non weight relieved) weights 8.5lbs and it is chunky as hell. As for weight relieved I am not sure. I doubt it though. Pups would be more of an issue imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 hmmm. That's a relief at least... My buddy has a 70s LP custom that is 11.5. It's a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 Which Epi has a weight relieved body? I thought that was primarily a newer Gibson thing due to the heavier maple cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dcooper830 Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 This Epiphone is pretty light. Like about 8.5lbs. The Gibson is about 9.5lbs. I think the Epi sounds just as phat and chunky. You be the judge. [YOUTUBE]Lqxsm6w7m5o[/YOUTUBE] . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fuelish Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I think the only chambered" (or "weight relieved", if you prefer) Epi LPs are the Ultras ... their regular LPs are not, afaik. My '07 Epi LP weighs in at a little over 9 lbs. I think the weight is mostly luck of the draw of whatever slab/slabs/layers of wood they happen to have on hand that day. I'm sure if you weighed 100 Epis (or 100 Gibsons or any brand), you'd come up with 100 different weights .... it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dcooper830 Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I'm sure if you weighed 100 Epis (or 100 Gibsons or any brand), you'd come up with 100 different weights .... it's all good. This! I've come across 10lb. Epis and 8lb. Gibsons...... and vise versa. Also many different weights in between with either brand. They all sound phat and chunky. I don't think weight has any effect on tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 hmmm GAS is killing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members IRG Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 Coop, What is your take on the new Epi LP Tribute model and the '59 model? Seem like a great LP with very good upgraded features. I think these will be a limited run. I might get the tribute with the black finish. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqxsm6w7m5o. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqxsm6w7m5o . they sound identical over the speakers. How about in the room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Karma1 Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I had an Epi LP Custom that weighed a ton, and although I liked the way it played and sounded, it was too much of a back breaker to keep. However, I've gone into Guitar Center and compared the weight of a whole row of Epi LP's and they varied tremendously from one to the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shamdog Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I bought a brand new Gibson VM LP 2 yeasrs ago from MF. I sent it back because it was so lite...felt like a toy. I bought an Epi LP Standard Plus Top and it feels just right. Sounds phnominal with BG Hot 90s in it. YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I just need to get over the headstock. It sounds like a great guitfiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelSaulnier Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I think the "heavy guitar = heavy tone" is a bit of a myth. I remember reading an article from a famous pro player, who said he intentionally looked for light weight LP's, generally older ones because he thought they sounded better. In his mind Lighter was better. (Can't remember which player). I've played both heavy and light, chambered and non-chambered, weight relieved and non-weight relieved. The ones with the most "sustain" tended to be the chambered ones. This is good news to me, since I have no reason to break my back with a 12 lb monster that doesn't give me any extra value. YMMV M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dimmypage Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I think the "heavy guitar = heavy tone" is a bit of a myth.I remember reading an article from a famous pro player, who said he intentionally looked for light weight LP's, generally older ones because he thought they sounded better. In his mind Lighter was better. (Can't remember which player).I've played both heavy and light, chambered and non-chambered, weight relieved and non-weight relieved. The ones with the most "sustain" tended to be the chambered ones.This is good news to me, since I have no reason to break my back with a 12 lb monster that doesn't give me any extra value.YMMVM Might have been Gary Moore, there was a period back in the 80s where he kind of swayed away from Lps. He even played an Ibanez RS 1000 because he said he was looking for guitars under 8lbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 As long as the guitar delievers the toans. It comes with the burstbucker 2 and 3 though. I've heard they are a little on the bright side so I may have to look into some bareknuckles to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crisco Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 My epiphone LP Plus has very good weight..a bit over 9 lbs. It's what I would think is a desirable weight and every time I pick it up and strap it on there is no question in my mind about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I like some of the lighter weight Les Pauls anyway. It adds some top end to the tone. Not all the heavy LPs were great sounding. Some were/are a bit on the muddy side, especially from the neck position. The two LPs that I have that IMO best define the iconic LP tone are my Epiphone Elite LP Standard and my Gibson VOS '59. The rest of them all have tones that are a bit of a departure but still cool sounding in their own right. If I was judging just by my ears and could only have one LP, I'd probably want a bit of a lighter one since I find their tone to be a bit more versatile, especially into the clean tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 I bet that '59 is awesome. That is the best neck profile hands down of any LP neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members metalheadUK Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 My personal favourite weight for an LP is around 8- 9 and a half pounds. Anything over 9 pounds better be doing somethinbg fantastic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdubbs Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 Higher grade mahagony weighs less. For a high quality gibby you are looking 8.5-9 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mcr23 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 Cool so the wieght is not an issue then. Buy it, replace the burstbucker 2 and 3 with some bareknucles, and then amright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shamdog Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 Cool so the wieght is not an issue then. Buy it, replace the burstbucker 2 and 3 with some bareknucles, and then amright? Personally, I'd go with BG Buckers...But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chill Mike D Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 My Epiphone LP is a little bit lighter than my MIM Telecaster. My LP is noticable lighter than my brother's Gibson LP Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted October 14, 2009 Members Share Posted October 14, 2009 Higher grade mahagony weighs less. For a high quality gibby you are looking 8.5-9 lbs. But then again, you look at the way Gibson grades the bodies. Heavier ones are often "reserved" for Black Beauties and other such Custom model guitars. Someone once posted here a picture from the factory that showed weight markings and categorized for the different models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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