Members Jkater Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 Shield paint? foil? Please be detailled. I'm a n00b... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordchunker Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 I installed a big copper shield that fits under the pick-guard and it has taken all the buzz out. Before I installed it I got a horrible static by just rubbing my fingers across the pick-guard..drove me crazy(er). Shield paint would probably be a good idea also especially if I was playing in bars with beer signs all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted December 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 Are copper shields also used to cover the inside of the pick-up cavities and electronics cavitiy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ten56gibby Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 That's the way I've seen it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 i have one done up with copper and another w/ heavy foil, both cavities and guard. i can't really tell a difference sound wise, but the copper looks way better. i've seen people claim that the copper (if too clost to the pickups) can have an effect on the tone or something because it can effect the magnetic field or something.. bleh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 If you wanna go all out...http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.php The principles are explained very well. Just doing foil on the backside of the guard accomplishes little to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jkater Posted December 9, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 If you wanna go all out... http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.phpThe principles are explained very well. Just doing foil on the backside of the guard accomplishes little to nothing. Thanks! Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 And if you wanna go way overboard you can add a little brass or copper tubing to the wire tunnel...you can see it protruding at the end of this cavity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiltsta Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 I used that copper foil tape. Worked fine and was really easy to install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nuke_diver Posted December 9, 2010 Members Share Posted December 9, 2010 I'm going to watch this closely since the winter has come and the air is dry I've notice a lot of static on my strat pickguard that I can't get rid of with fabric softener cloth Might have to go the shielding route myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mike42 Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 I always get the static noise problem every winter when the humidity drops. My experience has been that just shielding the back of a Strat or Tele pg, and grounding it, WILL pretty well clear up the static problem. If you have other kinds of noise issues then you probably will need to shield the entire cavity. But I kind of see those as two separate jobs anyway; so if the main problem is static, I'd just do the pg first and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 I used that copper foil tape. Worked fine and was really easy to install. where do you buy that? i found some once, but i felt it was terribly expensive (no, i don't recall the price). i ended up buying copper from monteallums.com - what was top notch, heavy duty.. http://www.monteallums.com/shielding_supplies.html#pickguardlooks like he sells adhesive backed stuff now.. i just used 3m super77 spray adhesive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AXEL276 Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 Just doing foil on the backside of the guard accomplishes little to nothing. I totally disagree! I own 18 top of the line guitars and on everyone of them (with a pickguard) at a minimum I have glued aluminum foil to the back of the pickguard. This WILL eliminate the "static" that some have mentioned. If you have vintage pickups prone to noise or other problems, yes I agree you may need to do more, but again, at a minimum, simply glue some heavy duty aluminum foil to the back of your pickguard and you should see a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 anyone ever try this? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Supplies:_Shielding/Conductive_Shielding_Paint.html?tab=Details#details i had an Agile once that appeared to have the cavities painted with something like it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members silverring233 Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 i had a thread here on how i shield guitars, but now i can't find it. so here's a link to a 3 part blog i did. http://markweinguitarlessons.com/forums/entry.php?76-Shielding-a-Squier-Affinity-Part-1#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vibroluxman Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 great tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr.Grumpy Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 Guitarfetish sells the adhesive copper tape, it's pretty reasonably priced as I recall, less than $10 for a kit to shield 1 guitar. I think you guys are getting confused about the different kinds of "static"... There's the 60 Hz AC hum that's hard to get rid of. But I've also experienced a "crackling" noise on my strat and tele when strumming. Turned out my hand was rubbing the pickguard and generating static electricity, and cause clicks and pops to come through my amplifier. Putting grounded copper foil on the back of my pickguard cured that problem 100%. Shielding reduced the pickup of AC hum in my strat, but didn't eliminate it. Sucks, cause I hate AC hum but love the sound of strat pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 anyone ever try this? http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Electronics,_pickups/Supplies:_Shielding/Conductive_Shielding_Paint.html?tab=Details#detailsi had an Agile once that appeared to have the cavities painted with something like it.. I used it on the Stratosquire that I assembled for my brother. It seems to work pretty well. I used three coats of the paint. The guitar is quiet unless you get right up next to an amp's transformers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 I used it on the Stratosquire that I assembled for my brother. It seems to work pretty well. I used three coats of the paint. The guitar is quiet unless you get right up next to an amp's transformers. lulz, mental image of you ramming a plugged in guitar into the back of a combo amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members El Glom-o Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 lulz, mental image of you ramming a plugged in guitar into the back of a combo amp. After the amount of work I put into it, I don't mind the bit of belt buckle rash it's picked up, but I wouldn't want to see my brother doing Pete Townshend imitations with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members silverring233 Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 i found the orignal thread of my shielding a squier for those interested..... http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?2592014-sweeten-up-an-affinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrbrown49 Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 where do you buy that? i found some once, but i felt it was terribly expensive (no, i don't recall the price). i ended up buying copper from monteallums.com - what was top notch, heavy duty.. http://www.monteallums.com/shielding_supplies.html#pickguardlooks like he sells adhesive backed stuff now.. i just used 3m super77 spray adhesive. Stewmac sells the copper tape for a reasonable price. I like it alot. Conductive adhesive back, solders well, and easy to work with. A roll of the 2 inch stuff will do 2 or three guitars depending on the cavities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members axegrinder Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 Stewmac sells the copper tape for a reasonable price. I like it alot. Conductive adhesive back, solders well, and easy to work with. A roll of the 2 inch stuff will do 2 or three guitars depending on the cavities.Agreed! This is the one product that comes to mind that StewMac sells at a reasonable price. One 2" roll will do probably half a dozen guitars (YMMV). Beware of other foil tapes that don't have conductive backing. If you don't have conduction between all the strips then you've failed to "closed the loop". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordchunker Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 If you wanna go all out...http://www.guitarnuts.com/wiring/shielding/tele.phpThe principles are explained very well. Just doing foil on the backside of the guard accomplishes little to nothing. So you tried copper foil on the pg and it did nothing? Still have static? Or is it just something you read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted December 10, 2010 Members Share Posted December 10, 2010 The only Tele I have thats sheilded is my Squier CVC and they use paint and also a bit of foil on the pickguard. When I changed the guard I did not use foil and I find no difference. sheilding works but its very subltle difference. I mean my Squier is slightly quieter than my other teles but its not really worth doing it to my other ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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