Members leyoculta Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 Hi,I'm about to pull the trigger on a 1979 Gibson les paul, found it over an ad (not the auction site). It's about one and a half hours drive from where I live. I'd have to go over there to pick it up (guy not shipping). I'm in contact with the guy selling. The serial number looks legit (checked it), got a bunch of photos too. Got any advice on what I should look for when testing it? I mean to tell if it's really a Gibson LP custom? (maybe the serial alone is guarantee enough) To test if a guitar is for me or not I'm ok. I can tell if it "feels" good, but to know the details or if something is "authentic" in just in a few minutes... well I could for sure use some help. Looks like a really good deal, but would hate to rush into it and get burned.Any comments appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members linusâ„¢ Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 post some pics, that will bring the experts out of the woodwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leyoculta Posted December 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 Good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LIVEWIRE Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 Check the controls cavity it should not be painted also there should be a metal box for lack of a better term "hiding" the pots. also the neck should have the "volute" behind the nut where the headsock meets the neck,also the headstock will be of the larger variety of the norlin les pauls. also the neck may be either maple or mahogany and the body may also be of the pancake style two pieces of mahogany with a slice of maple between then so if you see those things dont freak out as they were par for the era. hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ColoradoFenderB Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 From the pictures, it looks real. Can't say for sure if it is a 1979 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 Well, I would try it before buying. It probably weights close to 12 lbs., which would be a dealbreaker for me. The best thing to do is familiarize yourself with the appointments a '79 LP should have, but don't consider them set in stone, back then each guitar was made by hand and there is a lot of variety. And give it a good going over for wear and tear, if it looks 30 years old, it's probably real. The pictures look good, but they are small and don't show any detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ColoradoFenderB Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 The case doesn't look like it is a Gibson case. Must be aftermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 It looks good to me - I bought a LP Custom new in 1978 and, apart from the finish your pictures look very similar - I even removed one of the tone pots so I could put in a mini-toggle to switch the pickups to single coil. One thing to look for on a Gibson is the smaller posts that the bridge sits on. If you compare a Gibson to an Epiphone or most other imports you will notice that there is a difference at the bridge that is easy to spot. My '78 was extremely heavy - it was difficult to carry over any distance if I wanted to walk to rehearsal or to the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elias Graves Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 If it's a fake, I'm fooled. Beauty! EG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stormin1155 Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 The case doesn't look like it is a Gibson case. Must be aftermarket. The case looks real.. I have one just like it. It will say Gibson in silver letters right over where the guitar controls are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ColoradoFenderB Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 The case looks real.. I have one just like it. It will say Gibson in silver letters right over where the guitar controls are.Are you referring to case shipped with recent guitars? In 1979, I think the case was brown. Also, that one looks cheap.EDIT: Just did some research online and it appears the Gibson cases in 1979 were plastic on the outside - this is a 1979 LP: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sk8centilli Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 The case doesn't look like it is a Gibson case. Must be aftermarket. It looks good, including the case. Check out this older Elderly listing for different angled pics (this one's a lefty). http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/31U-482.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leyoculta Posted December 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 So far I've been checking with friends, and looking around for info on the internet and have not yet found a reason to discard it. Man, it does really look good enough to make the trip and check it out in person.Thanks for all the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 My '78 came with the same case so even that looks legit to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leyoculta Posted December 22, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 Found a difference. In a picture I got, the back of the headstock does have the serial number carved (maybe a bit worn) but there's no visible "Made in U.S.A." as in the one posted above from elderly:Something to worry about? Could be nothing. Maybe it just faded or it was a bad pic. Or, could be they just weren't so standardized when building them back then.Other than that, the headstock from the back looks the same to my eyes.At the moment I'm convinced enough to try it out. In the end it'll come down to that. Just checking if there was something obvious to others that wasn't clear to me. So far, so good... actually really good.====PS: sorry for not posting the headstock pic, it's not my guitar (at least not yet) and that photo was not online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 I'd ask for a pic of the back of the headstock shot at such at angle as to show the Made In USA imprint. I'm not really a Les Paul guy, but I had a friend when I lived in Texas and he WAS a Les Paul guy and I bet I handled and played at least 100 LPs each year at the big vintage guitar show they have there and a lot of them were during the 'bad' Gibson years and many of those 78 - 82 Pauls were unbelievably heavy. At the last local show here in Indy I played a beautiful LP Supreme (I forget the year) and I fully bet it weighed 14 lbs. 12 or 13 for sure. In the late 80s, they almost couldn't give those things away. Just something to expect before you drive 150 miles and get surprised. But some guys don't mind. Randy Rhoads was a little bitty guy and his famous Paul weight 13 lbs or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oldskool Texas Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 I had a '79 Custom (white), and it came in the standard wooden case. Check the neck binding very carefully. Mine got de-laminated and the guy who fixed it claimed that this was a common issue with that era's models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goosefartfan Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 It's the real McCoy. the fakes have the truss rod cover right on top of the nut. Yours has the proper 1/8th inch space. On the other hand Gibby's between 1970 and 1990 weren't high on quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cratz2 Posted December 22, 2010 Members Share Posted December 22, 2010 I've played a lot of 70s - 90s Pauls that played and sounded great... but a lot of them are pretty heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members geek_usa Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ColoradoFenderB Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Did you ever say what the owner wanted for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wagdog Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 It looks legit. I have an '81 custom, and it is heavy, but it plays great and I love the guitar. Bought it new in '81. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leyoculta Posted December 23, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 Did you ever say what the owner wanted for it?Fair question. The ad is for 1970 EUR.Now I've got to organize the logistics and hope nobody else gets there first . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stymye Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 it definatly looks legit to me,, can't tell if the fret nubs are there from the pic but that would be a dead giveaway,(unless it's been refretted) I've never seen a fake with fret nubs. everything else looks original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted December 23, 2010 Members Share Posted December 23, 2010 It looks good, including the case. Check out this older Elderly listing for different angled pics (this one's a lefty). http://www.elderly.com/vintage/items/31U-482.htmi had a case like that with my '84 LP. got the guitar second hand so im not sure it was orginal to the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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