Members DaveAronow Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Someone remind me what the chemical formula for wood is! Could be infinite combinations of elements. But every single piece of wood in existence would be one large macromolecule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted April 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think you need to go back to third grade science class because it appears you were sleeping when they covered molecules, which are merely two or more chemically bonded atoms of different types, which include just about any substance that is not a pure element.You know? Things like wood, or alloy metal, or your brain, or the desk you slept at in class that day.Wood is not a molecule?Wow. I would go slap your third grade teacher in the teeth if she taught me that. Hmmm!, It could be that he was saying that no molecules are made of wood, which is what is implied in my somewhat casual and carelessly worded thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PrawnHeed Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think you need to go back to third grade science class because it appears you were sleeping when they covered molecules, which are merely two or more chemically bonded atoms of different types, which include just about any substance that is not a pure element.You know? Things like wood, or alloy metal, or your brain, or the desk you slept at in class that day.Wood is not a molecule?Wow. I would go slap your third grade teacher in the teeth if she taught me that. I'm guessing his point is not that wood is not made of molecules, but that wood is made up of many different kinds of molecule. There is no "wood" molecule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm guessing his point is not that wood is not made of molecules, but that wood is made up of many different kinds of molecule. There is no "wood" molecule. Ok, maybe I am getting too carried away with this and apologies to the dude, and I see your point, but while I'm at it, and not one to ever know when to let something go until I have made a complete ass out of myself.... In fact, as long as you have a finite piece of wood, with a finite mass, then, yes, theoretically, every single atom in that piece could be accounted for, all the various elements accounted for, and yes, you actually could draw out the exact chemical formula for that piece of wood. Ok. I think I am a complete asshole now. Maybe I'll go try to write the chemical structure for an asshole now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PigWings_v2.0 Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PrawnHeed Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ok, maybe I am getting too carried away with this and apologies to the dude, and I see your point, but while I'm at it, and not one to ever know when to let something go until I have made a complete ass out of myself....In fact, as long as you have a finite piece of wood, with a finite mass, then, yes, theoretically, every single atom in that piece could be accounted for, all the various elements accounted for, and yes, you actually could draw out the exact chemical formula for that piece of wood.Ok. I think I am a complete asshole now.Maybe I'll go try to write the chemical structure for an asshole now. You could write a chemical formula, but it should reflect that it is made up of many different molecules. Mostly cellulose, hemicellulose of various kinds, lignin, plus lots of other {censored}. Each of those molucules are fairly complex in their own right. The formula for asshole would be similarly complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doctor Morbius Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Here's what an atom of rosewood looks like. Here's an atom of John Backlund's space age material used in his guitar builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sandy Cheeks Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Here's what an atom of rosewood looks like. Looks heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted April 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Here's what an atom of rosewood looks like. Here's an atom of John Backlund's space age material used in his guitar builds. 'Backlundium' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Blackface Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 In the 5th season of breaking bad the meth market falls through and Walter White spends his time making chemically perfect wood molecules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members photon9 Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 You could write a chemical formula, but it should reflect that it is made up of many different molecules. Mostly cellulose, hemicellulose of various kinds, lignin, plus lots of other {censored}. Each of those molucules are fairly complex in their own right. The formula for asshole would be similarly complex. I was thinking more along the lines of what the smallest piece of wood that could still be considered wood would be. That would be a cell! In a sense there is no 'wood' molecule, even though wood is made up of molecules. Just like there is no 'cat' molecule, or 'dog' molecule, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 My wood is made of many molecules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattZ31 Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 You could always buy one of the Rogue Aluminator guitars they were selling back around 94 if I recall. Stratish body made of aluminum with chambers cut out...essentially bunches of handles if you want. You could probably find one of those cheap, because they were POS Rogue guitars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted April 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 You could always buy one of the Rogue Aluminator guitars they were selling back around 94 if I recall. Stratish body made of aluminum with chambers cut out...essentially bunches of handles if you want. You could probably find one of those cheap, because they were POS Rogue guitars Nah, the last thing the world needs is another strat variant, I was thinking something more along these lines.....born to be plastic as hell.......(shown with optional imitation maple fretboard, of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nicholai Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Nah, the last thing the world needs is another strat variant, I was thinking something more along these lines.....born to be plastic as hell.......(shown with optional imitation maple fretboard, of course). That's really nice. If I had infinite gas I'd own one (if you built it). I keep trying to get a builder to let me fabricate something for a guitar but lets face it, anyone good enough to build a guitar from scratch can do it for themselves besides the glass, which is fairly useless to most guitarists (though make uniquely resonant slide guitars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Angry Tele Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 this guy discovered tone in 1665 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nicholai Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 this guy discovered tone in 1665 I bet he would have only played a Gibson with an Ebony board. Course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted April 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 this guy discovered tone in 1665 Looks like he may have discovered the slinky too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members deanmass Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Interesting proposition, but I don't make the guitars currently being built and have zero influence on where they go. I could swap you an old motorcycle or something equally useless though. What? Motorcycles? Spill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dabbler Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Then here's your guitar, a Switch Wild IV Signature: With one piece Vibracell body/neck, ebonite fretboard, and splittable Alnico II and V pups it's super stable and sounds sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nicholai Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I own a switch. I need some pups and a bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flatspotter Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm guessing his point is not that wood is not made of molecules, but that wood is made up of many different kinds of molecule. There is no "wood" molecule. I'm pretty sure wood is not made of "participles" either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted April 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 Thanks for all the suggestions of existing synthetic material-built guitars such as the Switch, but I was specifically thinking about some of the guitars of my own design that are currently being produced using various woods. With a few notable exceptions, 'my' guitars are usually 100% covered in two-tone paint schemes, at least if built true to the original concepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Backlund Posted April 23, 2012 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm pretty sure wood is not made of "participles" either. 'Participles' are comprised of the central particle along with a specific number of orbiting 'ciples', a word derived from the word 'disciples, meaning 'circling minions'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twofoolsaminute Posted April 23, 2012 Members Share Posted April 23, 2012 This thread is a great companion to the stable isotope geochemistry paper I'm writing tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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