Members alanhoggard Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Hello, anyone know of a decent firebird copy? I am not a fan of the Epiphone models.Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mel Cooley Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 '70s era Ibanez. Happy hunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyNameIsMok... Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 To the best of my knowledge, the Gibson Firebird has never been accurately reproduced. The combination of banjo tuners, neck through construction, and the proprietary pickups make it an expensive proposition, and the best you'll see out there is something close to a Firebird shape without it's sound and feel (something like a Les Paul shaped like a 'bird). I currently own the only non-USA Firebird that it pretty much spot on like the riginal as far as cut and constuction, but it still lacked the original pickups that made it sound unique. It's a CIJ Orville by Gibson, and it's amazing. Seek one out and you might get extremely lucky. I know I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Edward Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Tokai do a very nice take on it. Construction is "wrong", unless your comparison is the Studio version of the 'bird (glued-in neck), and it might even have the "wrong" woods (shriek!), but it is a great looking, great playing guitar that looks really close to the Gibson otherwise. The MIJ one will be the equal of the Giby quality-wise (albeit it may differ in neck joint, not sure on that one). The MIK will be around the same rice as the Epi or a bit cheaper (at least here in the UK). Often better built than the Epis (I like Epi too, not to diss them), and available in a much wider range of colours should you not want the usual black / cherry / sb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyNameIsMok... Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Tokai do a very nice take on it. Construction is "wrong", unless your comparison is the Studio version of the 'bird (glued-in neck), and it might even have the "wrong" woods (shriek!), but it is a great looking, great playing guitar that looks really close to the Gibson otherwise. The MIJ one will be the equal of the Giby quality-wise (albeit it may differ in neck joint, not sure on that one). The MIK will be around the same rice as the Epi or a bit cheaper (at least here in the UK). Often better built than the Epis (I like Epi too, not to diss them), and available in a much wider range of colours should you not want the usual black / cherry / sb. The Tokai is very good. I believe it has the long tenon neck joint, and a headstock scarf joint. Neck is laminate too, I believe. The biggest difference in all the copies and the real deal is the neck/headstock (which is what really makes this guitar special). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peskypesky Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Dillion makes some http://www.dillionguitars.com/guitar/electric/DF/DFB603/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Weiner_Bomb Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Second the Dillion. I owned four Dillions, they're solid axes. The other options sound good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tidal Rhythm Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Not really a Firebird copy, but the new Music Man neck through model looks as if it was "inspired by" the Firebird:[video=youtube;ycGhJzpFO04] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyNameIsMok... Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Not really a Firebird copy, but the new Music Man neck through model looks as if it was "inspired by" the Firebird I'm not seeing what you're seeing. Inspired in what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tidal Rhythm Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 It's a neck through design, it's a 24 3/4 scale length (which is rare for Music Man guitars), it looks like it has mini hums for pickups (how similar sounding to true Firebird pups is anyone's guess), and the shape of he body while not spot on seems Firebird-esque to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyNameIsMok... Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 It's a neck through design, it's a 24 3/4 scale length (which is rare for Music Man guitars), it looks like it has mini hums for pickups (how similar sounding to true Firebird pups is anyone's guess), and the shape of he body while not spot on seems Firebird-esque to me. The Firebird didn't have mini humbuckers. Those are specially wound and designed for the Firebird. As for the neck, the Music Man guitars are usually very narrow at the nut, whereas the Firebird is an unusually wide and flat neck, and tapered in thickness. I do like the design of that Music Man though, and the fact that it's a neck through...but it's really hard (if not impossible, I never saw the Ibanez version) finding a true Firebird made by anybody but Gibson and Orville by Gibson. They are rare for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members honeyiscool Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 The new Firebirds don't really have Firebird pickups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members craigny Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 ESP or LTD Phoenix....not an exact clone but has the general Firebird vibe and are AWESOME guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MyNameIsMok... Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 The new Firebirds don't really have Firebird pickups. correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peskypesky Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 [video=youtube;-nB-2-7rm_k] [video=youtube;u6I4RdHMCU8] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StevenJM Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 I've always been a big fan of the first act custom shop delgada's... but for that price you're better off getting a gibson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members D Carroll Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 What didn't you like about the epiphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vintage clubber Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Dillion makes some http://www.dillionguitars.com/guitar/electric/DF/DFB603/index.html another vote for Dillion! Although, I'd take an Epi Firebird Studio if the right deal came along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JTEES4 Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 I was not aware that Dillion made so many cool guitars, some of their copies look really nice too. I feel some serious GAS creeping up on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members w00dsy Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 these are awesome. [video=youtube;mB5mGw1HerE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tidal Rhythm Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 The Firebird didn't have mini humbuckers. Those are specially wound and designed for the Firebird. As for the neck, the Music Man guitars are usually very narrow at the nut, whereas the Firebird is an unusually wide and flat neck, and tapered in thickness. I do like the design of that Music Man though, and the fact that it's a neck through...but it's really hard (if not impossible, I never saw the Ibanez version) finding a true Firebird made by anybody but Gibson and Orville by Gibson. They are rare for a reason. Just to be clear, I don't disagree with any of those points. My first post started with "Not really a Firebird copy". Then I made a reference to not knowing whether the mini hums sounded like "true Firebird pups" and I never mentioned the nut or neck shape, just the unusual scale length for the MM which, coincidentally matches that of the Firebird. I've only pointed out similarities between the Firebird and the new Music Man model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 LTD/ESP Phoenix 200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sxyryan Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 ^^ I dig that one a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joemonkey Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'm regretting not jumping on the Hello Music offer from last weekend ($842 after coupon code). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Peaveyaddict Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Wow! That sunburst Dillon looks awsome! Why do you people have to bring these things to light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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