Members cwatson Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Basically the situation is this. I leave my full rig at my band's rehersal space (which happens to be one of my best friend's studio) as it is a pain to transport it there and back every week and I have a practice amp at home. However the guitarist (the guy that owns the studio/practice room) has just started up a side project with some other guys which is fair enough. Its none of my business and I don't have a problem with it. What I do have a problem with is him letting the bassist (who also happens to be a very good friend of mine) use my amp to practice when they rehearse and initially it was without my permission! Don't get me wrong I'm probably more lenient with my gear than most of you guys on here. I've supplied my amp as backline multiple times for various gigs. The thing is the bassist has his own stuff so in my opinion he should use It I made the effor to bring my gear over, so should he. I don't see why I should let another band use my gear that I've worked hard to pay for especially when I'm not even asked about it. and the fact that the bassist has his own gear that is more than up to the job. The drummer shares the same view, as the same guy let the drummer of this other band use our his kit (which also resides at the practice space) without permission from him. He was pretty pissed about it. So err yeah am I an asshole for pulling my gear from the rehersal space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Yes you're an asshole, but for different reasons than listed in this post But no, you're not an asshole for this I'd be pissed too; ESPECIALLY if I were the drummer. My gear is mine. I bought it, I transport it, I maintain it. If you are a friend who wants to come over and jam, or need to borrow a piece for a little while, hell yeah have at it. Am I going to allow you to push it every week blaring it during practice, when you have your own gear? Sorry, no. Then again, if he wants to pay you rental fees... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BottomHeavyKate Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 I don't think so. They certainly should have asked first. If you don't want to drag everything back and forth you could always just transport the head...unless you think he'd still be using your cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members frunobulax Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 only an asshole writes 'asshole' in a thread title. so, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rowka Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Put a very low value fuse in your rig so the next time they use it they freak out thinking they broke your gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mytola Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Put a very low value fuse in your rig so the next time they use it they freak out thinking they broke your gear. Yep. Then, when the fuse blows, tell him he broke the rig, and that he needs to pay for it. You then buy another rig, so you can have one full rig at home and one full rig at the rehearsal space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flemtone Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Put a very low value fuse in your rig so the next time they use it they freak out thinking they broke your gear. This is undoubtedly the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 You're not an asshole, they are. Are they prepared to pay you for damage when something breaks? They may say they would pay, but mark my words you'll wind up taking someone to court to get your money..... It's just not worth it. If those idiots had half a lick of sense they'd understand that too - I don't wanna be responsible for someone else's gear, do they? Didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PaulyWally Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 No... you're not an asshole for expecting a little common courtesy. But pulling your gear from the studio without communicating things first is a bit passive-aggressive. You said they are both good friends of yours. The guitarist probably just assumed it was all cool and said to the bassist, "yeah he's cool with it". So... you can't really blame the bassist. You probably should have said to the guitarist, "I'm sure you thought it was OK, but I wish you would have asked me". If you can't look at their POV objectively and communicate accordingly, then things just turn into everyone getting pissed at each other and nothing really gets accomplished. just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators ThudMaker Posted May 29, 2008 Moderators Share Posted May 29, 2008 So err yeah am I an asshole for pulling my gear from the rehersal space?Not at all. They are a**holes for using your gear like they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DadHatter Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Definitely not an asshole, IMO. I had this happen a couple years ago, when I was playing as half of an acoustic duo. I was leaving a PA, a couple of guitars, etc., at a friend's house (the other guy in the duo). I swing by his house one day, and he's practicing with his other band. My PA, my guitars, etc. The best part was "Dude, we're still practicing" when I told him I was going to pack up all of my crap and get it out of there. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Not at all. They are a**holes for using your gear like they did. +1... the guitarist deserves a bitch slap for loaning out the bass rig and drums without bothering to ask first... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rob Martinez Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 I have a similar situation, practice at my drummer's and he is also in another band. Their bassplayer brings his own rig, leaves it, and I have my practice amp there too. My amp (Ampeg B100R) probably wouldn't help him much, as we play very different music and he uses a Modulus Q6 bass. Having said that, we have a PA we use, and they use it too. I guess I take the point I really cannot get too bothered if someone uses my gear I leave somewhere, as I have NO control over what goes on when I am not around. Just so long as it keeps working correctly! Obvisously, if it breaks, someone needs to fix it and pay for repairs. My philosophy is, if I REALLY don't want someone touching my bass or amp, I take it home. Then I know for certain. If I leave it somewhere, all bets are off. Your approach does not make you an asshole, just someone who may take umbridge at someone else using your gear, which is reasonable. I don't care personally, as they are my tools I use to jam. I used to leave a Waterstone TP 12 string bass at our practice space, and I would not mind at all if the other bassplayer jammed it while I was not there. How could he resist?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members solderjunkie Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 I've lent out my bass rig to "opening bands" a few times when their equipment failed... but that's just rock n' roll Using your rig without permission is bull{censored} and requires a solid COCKPUNCH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 I used to leave a Waterstone TP 12 string bass at our practice space, and I would not mind at all if the other bassplayer jammed it while I was not there. How could he resist?? I've lent basses before but that's sort of a different beast. If you loan a bass, it's "Yeha don't drop it" and everything else is gravy. With my gear, you'd be pushing the speakers hard, putting hours on the tubes, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members funkrockfreedomfighter Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Since most people agree with you, I'll disagree. Yes, you are an asshole. The thing is the bassist has his own stuff so in my opinion he should use It I made the effor to bring my gear over, so should he. You brought your rig once. You don't bring it over, you leave it there, making you are just as lazy as he is. If he is a good friend of yours, then I would expect he would fix whatever he broke on it. If you don't like it, take it home. But... I would have asked first before I had used it, you are not an asshole about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Funkee1 Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 I've lent out my bass rig to "opening bands" a few times when their equipment failed... but that's just rock n' roll Using your rig without permission is bull{censored} and requires a solid COCKPUNCH. ...Or Monkey steals the peach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Incubitabus Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Simple fix: take something important to the operation of the amp. I always keep my bass, the speaker cable and the power cable for my rig when I leave practice. I actually do it more for power-surge issues than worrying about someone else using it, but still, it keeps it from happening. Yeah, he could conceivably bring his own power and speaker cables, but that would be a TOTAL dick move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t3ch Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 You brought your rig once. You don't bring it over, you leave it there, making you are just as lazy as he is. He has a point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wades_keys Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 He has a point So because he's lazy, that means it's open season on the gear. Gotta love that logic - with friends like that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zon5string Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 No... you're not an asshole for expecting a little common courtesy. But pulling your gear from the studio without communicating things first is a bit passive-aggressive.You said they are both good friends of yours. The guitarist probably just assumed it was all cool and said to the bassist, "yeah he's cool with it". So... you can't really blame the bassist.You probably should have said to the guitarist, "I'm sure you thought it was OK, but I wish you would have asked me".If you can't look at their POV objectively and communicate accordingly, then things just turn into everyone getting pissed at each other and nothing really gets accomplished.just my .02 I disagree with the first paragraph above. What, he needs to check with someone before taking his own gear? No one (asshole or not) should use someone else's stuff without explicit permission from the owner. That's just common sense, courtesy and consideration. Period. End of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members no-logic Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Not at all. They are a**holes for using your gear like they did. +1. I'd be furious!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 ...Or Monkey steals the peach! That's a bit harsh - but I'd say the message would get conveyed - hahaha!!! - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pickdust Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Put a very low value fuse in your rig so the next time they use it they freak out thinking they broke your gear. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted May 29, 2008 Members Share Posted May 29, 2008 Quote: Originally Posted by funkrockfreedomfighter You brought your rig once. You don't bring it over, you leave it there, making you are just as lazy as he is. He has a point Yeah, a crappy one... It's not uncommon to leave gear at a rehearsal space - I do it on a regular basis - that in no way excuses using said gear without atleast asking beforehand... I wouldn't be in a band with people that I couldn't trust enough to leave my gear with - and loaning out my gear without asking first is most definitely a no-no... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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