Members Mermph Posted January 28, 2009 Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 Club owners are all dickholes, all of them without exception. They are talentless and make a livign by selling alcohol to people thus earning bad karma. they are basically drug dealers, they have no appreciation for art, {censored} club owners!@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unclebill98 Posted January 28, 2009 Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 I can not believe thats actually on a Venues website. If i was a regular band there I'd be highly offended. Not sure how he thinks he can get away with it. btw the place looks like a {censored} hole. As for the raising funds for the drunk part!!! I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted January 28, 2009 Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 That's the only way to do it. Show up sober, set up quickly, perform well, and then get the hell off the stage for the next band. And then stick around and mingle, club owners notice that. If you load straight out the door and take off, it looks bad. In Myth Lab, a lot of the time after our set, I'd look around for my drummer and he'd be gone, 15 minutes after we got off stage. The guitarist usually didn't hang long, either, so it would be my wife and I watching the other bands, talking to people, chatting up the other bands, handing out stickers, and everything else that went with it. That was lame, but at the same time, all the club owners knew me by name, and some still do. C7 You know, you'd probably make an awesome band manager. I know it's not the same as being IN a band, but every post I see you talking about promoting and working your ass off for the band your in makes me think you'd do great as a manager. Probably much more a pain in the ass than you want to handle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poorboy Posted January 28, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 Poorboy, I see you're in Columbus. I'm sorry you weren't happy with my band... I'm not a bar owner.I'm a bass player .I've been playing in and out of Columbus since 1977. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crescent Seven Posted January 28, 2009 Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 Club owners are all dickholes, all of them without exception. They are talentless and make a livign by selling alcohol to people thus earning bad karma. they are basically drug dealers, they have no appreciation for art, {censored} club owners!@ You would be too if you dealt with pretentious pricks all day, that accused you of being an asshole because you don't recognize their derivative, aimless music as "art". As for being talentless because they sell alcohol, have you ever run a successful live music venue? Or any business? You think it's just that easy?I dunno, I've met a couple of dickheads, but the reality is, if they didn't care about the "art" of music, they'd invest in 30 LCD TV's and open up as a sports bar, because that's a whole lot more profitable than a music club, promise you that.C7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffBass Posted January 28, 2009 Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 I hate it when bands invite my girlfriend backstage and she returns sans lipstick and reeking of sweat. That really grinds my gears!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theglove Posted January 28, 2009 Members Share Posted January 28, 2009 I hate it when bands invite my girlfriend backstage and she returns sans lipstick and reeking of sweat. That really grinds my gears!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members max maroon Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 4. Tip the soundman; he's a stupid asshole, but controls the SUCK knob. -1 Nobody is throwing me extra cash to not sound {censored}ty when I'm playing. If you've hired the soundguy then pay him fairly. If the club hires the soundguy then it's the club's responsibility to pay him fairly. I worked at a club doing sound and IMHO any soundguy who gives you less "Sucky" sound if you tip him probably isn't much of a soundguy at all and it probably won't make much of a difference. edit. I will say buy him a drink or 2 though if you think he did a good job or if he usually does, I have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffBass Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 I saved that Far Side cartoon showing the sound guy turning the suck knob. Funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members max maroon Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 I saved that Far Side cartoon showing the sound guy turning the suck knob. Funny stuff. LOL, that one was awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members poorboy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 Every gig we do, we're courteous, quick, efficient, and polite. I talk to the sound guy immediately to let him know all the instruments, how many vocalists, what the drummer's kit has, and ask him what he needs from us.I tell every club owner that we want to #1 be professional, #2 not suck, and #3 impress everyone. So far, we've accomplished that.We save the rock star misbehavior for the setlist and the audience. Before and after, it's all business and professionalism. We've already made our mental notes of do's and don'ts to differentiate ourselves from the douchebags and the n00bs. So far, so good. We have the venues asking us to come back, not the other way around. +1 Wonderful advice and additude.First and formost it is a business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted January 29, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2009 Marks the Creepy Crawl as a place not to play when in St Louis. Yeah, there are plenty of annoying things bands do, but really? Complaining because they ask for water? And do so politely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members collinwho Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 And do so politely? If "could I please have some water?" is considered polite, then yes, I always ask politely. Mom raised me right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pwgjam Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 I hate it when bands invite my girlfriend backstage and she returns sans lipstick and reeking of sweat. That really grinds my gears!!A lot of people's girlfriends are back there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WillPlay4food Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 I saved that Far Side cartoon showing the sound guy turning the suck knob. Funny stuff.Happened to be in a thread somewhere else so I brought it here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members misterhinkydink Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 My Chicago brethren will know what I'm talking about when I say these two words: The Thirsty Whale. Okay...three words. Hah!! I went to that place a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 I dunno, I've met a couple of dickheads, but the reality is, if they didn't care about the "art" of music, they'd invest in 30 LCD TV's and open up as a sports bar, because that's a whole lot more profitable than a music club, promise you that.C7 Truth. If I was going to run a bar for the purpose of making money, I'd never hire bands. I'd do exactly as you described, but I would take it a step further. I'd set up a dancefloor area, put in $5k worth of sound and lighting and have a DJ every Friday and Saturday night. The band budget would go toward the extra security required for the crowd that attracts, but the house would make far more money. There are a few bars around here that did just that, but then ended up bringing bands back to drive out the undesirable crowd only to bring back the DJ when the cash started falling off. A good MC spinning Let Me Clear My Throat will always sell more drinks and get more people in the door than group of d-bags playing Sweet Home Alabama. Too many bands half ass it and expect to be paid. The band I'm currently in is guilty of that to a point, but Z-x and I are trying like hell to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 A good MC spinning Let Me Clear My Throat will always sell more drinks and get more people in the door than group of d-bags playing Sweet Home Alabama. So does your band play "Sweet Home Alabama" as an encore or is it in the middle of your set? :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burdizzos Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 So does your band play "Sweet Home Alabama" as an encore or is it in the middle of your set? :poke: Clearly in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JeffBass Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 Happened to be in a thread somewhere else so I brought it here. Funny man! I was looking for it but to no avail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bryan316 Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 Happened to be in a thread somewhere else so I brought it here. TRUE STORYA guy who runs sound in town likes to put a delay between the vocal mic and the monitors. If he gets a douchebag band on stage being arrogant assholes and breaking {censored} and berating the club, he slowly turns up the delay's repeat time, so the vocalist's voice bounces back at him later and later after his actual singing. Thoroughly screws up the whole band as the vocalist is now lagging behind the beat, and you watch as everyone else starts trying to compensate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted January 29, 2009 Members Share Posted January 29, 2009 I saved that Far Side cartoon showing the sound guy turning the suck knob. Funny stuff. It's above the console in my studio, and has been for 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted January 29, 2009 Moderators Share Posted January 29, 2009 If "could I please have some water?" is considered polite, then yes, I always ask politely. Mom raised me right. It certainly sounds polite to me. That's why I don't get why it's such a terrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MapexDrummer Posted January 30, 2009 Members Share Posted January 30, 2009 TRUE STORY A guy who runs sound in town likes to put a delay between the vocal mic and the monitors. If he gets a douchebag band on stage being arrogant assholes and breaking {censored} and berating the club, he slowly turns up the delay's repeat time, so the vocalist's voice bounces back at him later and later after his actual singing. Thoroughly screws up the whole band as the vocalist is now lagging behind the beat, and you watch as everyone else starts trying to compensate. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Flogger59 Posted January 30, 2009 Members Share Posted January 30, 2009 TRUE STORYA guy who runs sound in town likes to put a delay between the vocal mic and the monitors. If he gets a douchebag band on stage being arrogant assholes and breaking {censored} and berating the club, he slowly turns up the delay's repeat time, so the vocalist's voice bounces back at him later and later after his actual singing. Thoroughly screws up the whole band as the vocalist is now lagging behind the beat, and you watch as everyone else starts trying to compensate. I've seen a similar thing with a harmonizer on full wet in the monitor buss, with about a 1/4 step, set to bypass. If the band are dicks, just engage for the high, sustained scream, then bypass again. Bacon ensues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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