Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluedogaudio Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 You would blow 6's left and right. What crossover there is in that cab is incredibly primitive. No. I owned one of these cabs, and I never blew the 6's, and I pushed that thing to the limits. The problem I had with that cab is the lack of low-end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted December 18, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2009 Thanks - I was just curious... I could probably pair up my 215 and 410, but don't really see the need - either one will cover my needs as a stand alone... - georgestrings I've played a few gigs where I powered both with my Model T (that's a 150 wrms tube head, in case anyone doesn't know) and was pushing it well into distortion just to keep up. To be fair, it was outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 I owned one of these cabs, and I never blew the 6's, and I pushed that thing to the limits. The problem I had with that cab is the lack of low-end. I've seen several posts over the years about replacement sixes for those cabs, and seen three separate ones with blown sixes at pawn shops and guitar center. For the weight, the Diesel 2x15 is a far better cabinet. Far better. IIRC, the method of limiting wattage to the 6s is to wire them both in series =P Don't think there's even a high pass to them, but I can't find a manual to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jackcheez Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 find me a 4x12 bass cab for a decent price.....and sure, I will.http://www.gallien-krueger.com/products_neo_series.htmlGK makes a pretty cool looking 4 X 12 My two 2 X 12's are ready today. I'll poast pics on Monday along with a brief opinion piece on the toans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 http://www.gallien-krueger.com/products_neo_series.html GK makes a pretty cool looking 4 X 12 My two 2 X 12's are ready today. I'll poast pics on Monday along with a brief opinion piece on the toans. Only the Neo series? I've seen a lot of other GK cabs, but they all look cheap. Genz Benz has decent cabs too, right? I can't wait to see your cabs! Well, the entire stack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 What words would you guys use to describe a "hifi" bass cab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluedogaudio Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 What words would you guys use to describe a "hifi" bass cab? Go out and try some cabs and pick one you like within your price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Go out and try some cabs and pick one you like within your price range. That's the biggest problem. two out of three local shops have bass gear.One has a used GK goldline stack....but only has beginner combos otherwise.The other has the Acoustic, an SWR 8x10, two peavey 1x15s, and a bunch of ampeg combos. Not much variety. The closest GC is 2 hours away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted December 18, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2009 What words would you guys use to describe a "hifi" bass cab? "Hifi" is, or at least ought to be, clearly defined as "what goes in, comes out". In other words, a flat response, with no noticeable peaks or dips. "Hifi" is short for high fidelity, which means exactly that in the world of audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 "Hifi" is, or at least ought to be, clearly defined as "what goes in, comes out". In other words, a flat response, with no noticeable peaks or dips. "Hifi" is short for high fidelity, which means exactly that in the world of audio. That doesn't sound so bad. For some reason, hi-fi meant "not for me"....until that description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluedogaudio Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 two out of three local shops have bass gear. where do you live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 where do you live? Central Wisconsin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluedogaudio Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 Central Wisconsin. Take a trip to Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 How do you guys like the Carvin stuff..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluedogaudio Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 I haven't tried any of their cabinets. I don't like their basses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georgestrings Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 I've played a few gigs where I powered both with my Model T (that's a 150 wrms tube head, in case anyone doesn't know) and was pushing it well into distortion just to keep up. To be fair, it was outside. I played a couple of fairly large outdoor gigs this past summer, and covered it just fine with the 700rb-II + PH 610 setup just fine... Of course, they all had huge PAs - so it's not like my rig had to do anything more than provide stage volume for my bandmates and me... - georgestrings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 The only Carvin speakers I'd consider buying are LS1503s to replace with eminence 3015's Or the 2x10 ultralight Br510n combo maybe. Their bass cabs use under-xmax'd speakers in general. They're comparable to like, Avatar-ish, but I wouldn't pay for Avatars either when LDS is available if you're patient. Their amps are fantastic - the Bx500/1200/etc, simply amazing. Regarding Hi Fi - I agree with Isaac about what hi fi SHOULD mean. There are zero bass cabinets on the open market except Lo Phat and Barefaced that are anywhere close to hi fi, however. What hi fi means in bass cabs to most people is scooped mids with a shiny top - Epifani's UL410 is one of the cabs I hear named as 'hifi' constantly but it's got a big bottom and a tweeter at least an octave from the top end of the 10's to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted December 18, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2009 That doesn't sound so bad. For some reason, hi-fi meant "not for me"....until that description. The flip side is that there are a lot of highly colored cabinets and amps out there that are referred to as "hifi". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 under xmax'd?I understand it's the travel of the speaker in mms (looked it up). So they're just cheaper speaker, eh? The enclosures are okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators isaac42 Posted December 18, 2009 Moderators Share Posted December 18, 2009 I played a couple of fairly large outdoor gigs this past summer, and covered it just fine with the 700rb-II + PH 610 setup just fine... Of course, they all had huge PAs - so it's not like my rig had to do anything more than provide stage volume for my bandmates and me... - georgestrings All I was trying to do was provide stage volume. I left house to the sound man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 The flip side is that there are a lot of highly colored cabinets and amps out there that are referred to as "hifi".This. Keep in mind that pretty much any bass cab that is called hifi almost certainly is not I forgot, other actual hi-fi cabs:Acme's B1/2/4 seriesEuphonic Audio's 108/208 cabs are close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rpsands Posted December 18, 2009 Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 under xmax'd?I understand it's the travel of the speaker in mms (looked it up).So they're just cheaper speaker, eh?The enclosures are okay? The enclosures are pretty well built with a fairly solid amount of port area in most cases. Their duratex type coating is neat, but not sure the bass cabs still have it. Maybe the BRX stuff. The speakers are very cheap, yes. They're comparable to what most midrange companies are using - Ampeg, GK, Peavey etc, though, so keep that in mind. The BRX 4x10 is actually a very decent cab; on par with the Avatar or GK 4x10s. But don't buy anything from Carvin with a 15 in it expecting real bass though. One good thing about the Carvin boxes though: All of the 15" cabs (BRX15/BR15/LS1503) are very suitable for replacement with a Kappalite 3015 (and some with a 3015LF). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cliff Fiscal Posted December 18, 2009 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2009 I was looking at the CARVIN BRX10.4 NEO cab. I'm wondering if it'll be any better then the Yorkville XC410 I have now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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