Members stunningbabe Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 How often do you see a Guitarist on stage sample his playing...one layer at a time...using his looping machine? Gosh....to build that layer by layer 6-8 times before you even start singing on top of all these becomes tiresome after awhile. It is always the same old predictable way. You keep hearing the same repeated bass line, rhythm, chords and etc over and over again for the next 5 minutes. Not everyone has the patience to see a guitarist do that for the next 10 songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MusicalSchizo Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 It's novel perhaps the first time you see someone do it, but after that, you really have to have the patience to sit through the same {censored} over and over as they build the loop. I personally can't stand it. I just want them to create their loops at home, SAVE them, and then sing the damn song. Entertain people, don't show off how you can make loops. Just my take on it. I sold my looper three weeks ago. Brian V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stunningbabe Posted July 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 It's novel perhaps the first time you see someone do it, but after that, you really have to have the patience to sit through the same {censored} over and over as they build the loop. I personally can't stand it. I just want them to create their loops at home, SAVE them, and then sing the damn song. Entertain people, don't show off how you can make loops. Just my take on it. I sold my looper three weeks ago. Brian V. Agree 100%! It becomes so tiresome to watch that over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loner Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 This is what keeps me from getting one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Dey Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 I'm not a fan of the looper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingerpicker Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yeah I wish Keller Williams would just use pre-recorded tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KindredDuo Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 I've scoured Youtube for inspiration, looking for people who loop well. I also get SO tired of sitting through loop after loop of the building process. There are some who do it well, seamlessly starting the song and building from there. You don't know they're doing it sometimes. I've seen Phil Keaggy build a loop fast and get into the song, Andrew Bird does it well, and a guy I found from Minnesota named Michael Munroe (NOT the Hanoi Rocks guy). 90% of what you see is that boring build a song stuff. Most of them seem really happy with what they're doing too. I've had a looper for years and have never been able to figure out how to use it the way I want. Still dreaming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stunningbabe Posted July 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 Loopers are so out of date now. Nowadays..more and more people are tired of seeing the same old recyled routine on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingerpicker Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 Its easy. Loop alot at once. (Well its not easy but the concept is) If you do percussive do a bunch at once, dont "build" it seperately. I do a basic beat via beatbox(very basic) alon with a bassy rhythm guitar. My loops usually are fully built in under 15 seconds. Is that quick enough for ya'll????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vito Corleone Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 This thread reads like a loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 Loopers are so out of date now. Nowadays..more and more people are tired of seeing the same old recyled routine on stage. i dont think it's the equipment thats out of date as much as it seems the person you are referring to is boringly redundant... anything done in such a fashion is usually tough to sit through for more than 20 minutes or so unless they happen to be utterly brilliant... i ave just started working with a looper and see how it could be used as something to add interest... something capable of adding another dimension to my playing but nonetheless i will still be a guitarist and vocalist... not a looperist... i dont plan on it being used on every tune in the same way each time following the same routine for each and every tune every night every gig... i dont care what your act is, if it is repetitive and predictable it isnt going to be entertaining to too many people for very long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcpatte2 Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 This thread reads like a loop. :thu::thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stunningbabe Posted July 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 I saw one guy perform. Each time he does the same thing. After 3 songs many people walked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Potts Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 Why do you guys use them the way everyone else does? Use them as a second guitar player to solo over. Record the riff while you're singing and when the solo comes up it's there and ready to go. This is a HUGE element of my show and I don't over do it. That whole loop bass lines, guitar lines and vocals stuff is just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 I saw one guy perform. Each time he does the same thing. After 3 songs many people walked out. i wouldnt blame them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Voltan Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 Why do you guys use them the way everyone else does? Use them as a second guitar player to solo over. Record the riff while you're singing and when the solo comes up it's there and ready to go. This is a HUGE element of my show and I don't over do it. That whole loop bass lines, guitar lines and vocals stuff is just silly. I'd prolly stay and watch your show... and buy you a beer afterwards and pick your brain... or tell you some lies for a laugh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Howie22 Posted July 13, 2012 Members Share Posted July 13, 2012 I recently had a couple tell me they really enjoyed my show because I wasn't using a looper. They said it was refreshing to see someone just play the guitar and sing. I thought that was kind of funny. I'm not opposed to them. I thought they were cool when they were first hitting big 5 or so years ago. But, the schtick gets boring really quick. Oh, and don't get me started on the guys who use it as an excuse to wank on a guitar solo for 5 minutes in the middle of what should have been a 3 minute song (there's a guy locally that does these long, meandering songs, taking extended solos, barely even singing - like a one man jam band or something). When used tastefully and appropriately, they are very nice tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Potts Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 When used tastefully and appropriately, they are very nice tools. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingerpicker Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 Record the riff while you're singing and when the solo comes up it's there and ready to go 80% of the time this is exactly what i do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EightString Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 This thread reads like a loop. This thread is great... FOR ME TO LOOP ON! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Dey Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 I've never seen anyone use a looper yet, except on youtube. Of course, I don't see other solos or duos very often either. I know of a duo that uses karaoke tracks, and it really turns me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fingerpicker Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 Im feeling loopy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Bartus Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 They don't all have to be boring or interminable building exercises. At the risk of a flame loop, here's a bit of how I do it... [video=youtube;YNTAjg4iMqQ] YMMV. Flame suit on and secured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MusicalSchizo Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 Its easy. Loop alot at once. (Well its not easy but the concept is) If you do percussive do a bunch at once, dont "build" it seperately. I do a basic beat via beatbox(very basic) alon with a bassy rhythm guitar. My loops usually are fully built in under 15 seconds. Is that quick enough for ya'll????????????????????????????????????? Yes. We're not talking about people who build them quickly...we're talking about the morons who let it go over and over as they build their loops. It's IRRITATING after a while. If you're not that, then this complaint isn't about you. We're not condemning the USE of loopers, just the ENDLESS building of loops. Brian V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MusicalSchizo Posted July 14, 2012 Members Share Posted July 14, 2012 This thread is great... FOR ME TO LOOP ON! HA HA HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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