Members alcohol Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 If you do sound for a local band and they go big time do you stick around? Can they retain your services, or is that it? You're out of your league? I know that usually happens to recording engineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NUSound Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 Recording is different. Recording engineers are usually crucial to their recording style/ideas. Unless you're already close friends with the band, I doubt that they'll hold a special place in their heart for you. At the end of the day, the hired grunt is just that. When the band goes big-time, they just hire the next production company up the food-chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 There is a young guy named Evan Kirkendall who posts over at http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/ who is the FOH engineer for the band All Time Low. He started working with them in small clubs They went on tour with Fall out boy and I believe they were the headliner at several WARPED shows this year. I enjoyed reading his blog http://www.harfordsound.com/blog/ {read the archives section.} It was an enjoyable read. He has a new blog but hasn't posted in it. Anyway most bands that do make it big will travel with their own soundman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alcohol Posted October 6, 2009 Author Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 modulusman, thanks for the link to the blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 It varies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted October 6, 2009 Members Share Posted October 6, 2009 modulusman, thanks for the link to the blog. You're welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fireax Posted October 8, 2009 Members Share Posted October 8, 2009 There is a young guy named Evan Kirkendall who posts over at http://srforums.prosoundweb.com/ who is the FOH engineer for the band All Time Low. He started working with them in small clubs They went on tour with Fall out boy and I believe they were the headliner at several WARPED shows this year. I enjoyed reading his blog http://www.harfordsound.com/blog/ {read the archives section.} It was an enjoyable read. He has a new blog but hasn't posted in it. Anyway most bands that do make it big will travel with their own soundman. How Funny.tonight my son and I were talking about bands he likes, and he mentioned he really likes this band All Time Low.Then I remembered this post.Timely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modulusman Posted October 8, 2009 Members Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah, IIRC Evan is only about 21 years old. When they were on tour with Fall out boy he was using a Midas Pro 6 which I believe was one of the first ones available. That must really be something to be able to mix on million dollar PAs every night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Special J Posted October 8, 2009 Members Share Posted October 8, 2009 Sometimes the company and crew can grow with the band if they have a close relationship. But it depends on a lot of different factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TimmyP Posted October 10, 2009 Members Share Posted October 10, 2009 Expect that someone will talk the band into replacing you with "a pro" who can't mix pancake batter. I can't think of any other reason for the number of hacks out there. (By all accounts, Evan Kirkendall is a rare exception.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scodiddly Posted October 10, 2009 Members Share Posted October 10, 2009 Sometimes a band hangs onto a buddy a bit too long - guy might have been good in the clubs, but can't (or won't, because he's a buddy and already has the gig) put the work in to learn how to do sound in the big leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted October 10, 2009 Members Share Posted October 10, 2009 Expect that someone will talk the band into replacing you with "a pro" who can't mix pancake batter. I can't think of any other reason for the number of hacks out there. (By all accounts, Evan Kirkendall is a rare exception.) Often, stepping up to somebody with more "worldly" experience is a much better solution. If there are so many "pro" hacks out there, then the field is wide open for you to make it big and work some real shows eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RoadRanger Posted October 10, 2009 Members Share Posted October 10, 2009 If you do sound for a local band and they go big time do you stick around?FWIW my thoughts:Do you give 110% to the band? Are you at every practice? Do you set up the board and rehearse the cues even if they are only using the monitors at practice? Are you an invaluable part of their "sound"?If you are lucky enough to tour with them they will only be the opener at first and you'll be expected to do a lot of grunt work in addition to possibly being allowed to mix for them. Learn how to do EVERYTHING anybody is willing to let you help with - especially the headliner mix engineer and monitor mixer. If anybody thinks you aren't busting your arse and constantly looking for more to do that first tour you won't be there for long. A great work ethic counts for way more than a great ear - that's why you will hear many a marginal mix engineer working big shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mayorstoner1 Posted October 10, 2009 Members Share Posted October 10, 2009 " It's been my experience, 'Road Ranger' is exactly right.Read that post many times. Print it. Remember it. " MS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members W. M. Hellinger Posted October 10, 2009 Members Share Posted October 10, 2009 If you do sound for a local band and they go big time do you stick around?Can they retain your services, or is that it? You're out of your league? I know that usually happens to recording engineers. Why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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