Members VTReconcileD Posted February 8, 2012 Members Share Posted February 8, 2012 I joined this forum just so I could chime in here. I received the ipb-10 for Christmas and absolutely love it! I don't have too much to add, but I did want to mention that if you're looking for a bag for the board I can recommend the Gator G-Club Control 25 (http://www.gatorcases.com/Default.as...atalogID=13256.I've been using this bag and it's pretty great. Keep up the great work DigiTech! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted February 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks for chiming in, and welcome to the forum! So far reactions seem extremely positive, except for those trying to move quickly through a large number of patches using an iPad 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RickyKeith Posted February 12, 2012 Members Share Posted February 12, 2012 Originally Posted by Anderton ... There are a few instructive things here. First, it seems that switching either occurs on a zero-crossing, or there's a very quick fade to zero. This would account for the lack of clicks. Second, the gap is totally silent. Hmm, I'm getting thunks and clicks of varying loudness when switching presets. I'm thinking that this problem might have developed over time, though my memory is not perfect on this. I wonder if I have a hardware issue? Hopefully, the upcoming firmware update will magically fix it (by resetting stuff). I could try restoring the unit to factory default, but I'm nervous about losing all my hard work in creating presets. I wonder how sync works - always from iPad to IPB-10? Some sort of merge based on edit timestamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members edlg42 Posted February 13, 2012 Members Share Posted February 13, 2012 Digitech Rep, please forgive my novice question but the ibp-10 does have the "4 cable" system like the rp1000, correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RickyKeith Posted February 14, 2012 Members Share Posted February 14, 2012 Originally Posted by edlg42 Digitech Rep, please forgive my novice question but the ibp-10 does have the "4 cable" system like the rp1000, correct? I'm not with Digitech, but I'll chime in... I'm using the IPB-10 with a 4-cable system, just as I did with my RP-1000, so it works fine. What is a little odd, though, is that to get the amp loop into the signal flow, you have to first add an amp model, and there is no "direct" amp model as one of the choices. Not a big problem, and you can then switch between your amp's preamp and the amp model using the AMP footswitch. Again, though, there is an oddity in that the AMP footswitch state - external amp preamp vs. amp model - is not remembered in your preset. This is causing me some trouble as I'd like some presets to use my external preamp and others use a model, and I don't want to have to remember to push another switch to get it into that state. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MediaMan09 Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Question on connecting an iPad to the Digitech ipb-10( I posted this in another thread but didn't get any replies)....Q1) DIRECT CONNECT - Do I understand correctly that the iPad does NOT seamlessly "dock" into the ipb-10, but rather one needs to manually connect a hard-wired digitech cable connector to the ipad dock port and then seat the connected ipad in the unit - correct?Q2) EXTENSION CABLE - I have heard some say they had problems using an extended cable - whereas others had no issue with using premium cables such as those here: http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html . Is there a consistent verdict on the use of cables? Definitely like the extended cable route, putting the ipad on a stand or desk. My ipad can NOT be dedicated to guitar room (when needed to configure the ipb-10), so I much prefer to simply dock it as needed.Q3) WI-FI CONNECTION - Rather than requireing the use of a manual connector, or use of extended cables, is there a reason why this couldn't have been done with a wi-fi connection - ie no docking, no cables? I guess this is not something we will see in a firmware upgrade, but only in the next hardware generation of ipd-nn units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DigiTechRep Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 MediaMan09, I saw your PM first and answered there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted February 15, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by DigiTechRep MediaMan09, I saw your PM first and answered there. Well don't keep us in suspense...I know the answer to (1) is yes, and I think the answer to (2) is "depends on the cable," but I'm wondering about (3). Is it because of the complications of requiring an additional wi-fi router? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MediaMan09 Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Wi-fi answer - cost consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mck Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by MediaMan09 Wi-fi answer - cost consideration. Hardware cost of implementing wifi connectivity onboard is now really miniscule... See toys like : http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/26/a...re-reasons-to/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DigiTechRep Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by mck We don't purchase anywhere near that volume and we don't get the same price breaks that cell phone and toy makers get. Believe me, we looked (and are looking) into it and the cost ended up being prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mck Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by DigiTechRep We don't purchase anywhere near that volume and we don't get the same price breaks that cell phone and toy makers get. Believe me, we looked (and are looking) into it and the cost ended up being prohibitive. I can appreciate that. Lets hope by the time your next hardware iteration is due the cost constraints come down further in this field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MediaMan09 Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 DigiTechRep , Have you given any thought to selling an optional ipb-10 companion/interface device ? Imagine an optional simple digitech (or thirdpaty) offering that : was reasonably priced ( say $59-$99) connected to the ipb-10 just like an ipad would had dock connectors on top (or at rear) to enable the ipad to connect to the compnaion device via an extender cable had top mounted dock connector to enable the ipad to be docked to it directly (without manully connecting each time) allowed the ipad to be charged provided some very basic hardware controls/features ( via up/down scrolling, push buttons, even additional stomp switches) that were heretofore only available on the ipad, to enhance the independent/ standalone functionality – ie when one wanted to leave the ipad at home. perhaps even offered wi-fi-connectivity through it etc etc Crude concept pic below. I’d buy one in a flash and would keep it connected all the time, plugging my ipad to it, as needed. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conjurerofriffs Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by RickyKeith I'm not with Digitech, but I'll chime in... I'm using the IPB-10 with a 4-cable system, just as I did with my RP-1000, so it works fine. What is a little odd, though, is that to get the amp loop into the signal flow, you have to first add an amp model, and there is no "direct" amp model as one of the choices. Not a big problem, and you can then switch between your amp's preamp and the amp model using the AMP footswitch. Again, though, there is an oddity in that the AMP footswitch state - external amp preamp vs. amp model - is not remembered in your preset. This is causing me some trouble as I'd like some presets to use my external preamp and others use a model, and I don't want to have to remember to push another switch to get it into that state. Hope that helps. Will someone verify this. If the IPB doesn't maintain the AMP footswitch state in a preset, then that is a deal breaker for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DigiTechRep Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by conjurerofriffs Will someone verify this. If the IPB doesn't maintain the AMP footswitch state in a preset, then that is a deal breaker for me. I've been testing this for the past two days and it is definitely saving the switch state, as it should be. I have video showing it working. After testing I think that RickyKeith may be experiencing a different issue. RickyKeith I'll send you a PM with my contact info and we'll see if we can figure out what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members conjurerofriffs Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by DigiTechRep I've been testing this for the past two days and it is definitely saving the switch state, as it should be. I have video showing it working. After testing I think that RickyKeith may be experiencing a different issue. RickyKeith I'll send you a PM with my contact info and we'll see if we can figure out what is going on. awesome! thanks! where can we find this video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DigiTechRep Posted February 15, 2012 Members Share Posted February 15, 2012 Originally Posted by conjurerofriffs awesome! thanks! where can we find this video? I'm having proxy issues, PM me your email addy and I'll send it to you. ETA: Sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RickyKeith Posted February 16, 2012 Members Share Posted February 16, 2012 Originally Posted by DigiTechRep I've been testing this for the past two days and it is definitely saving the switch state, as it should be. I have video showing it working. After testing I think that RickyKeith may be experiencing a different issue. RickyKeith I'll send you a PM with my contact info and we'll see if we can figure out what is going on. I did some experimenting, and I can get the AMP state to save in a preset. What I see is that it's somewhat random (as far as I can tell) whether engaging or disengaging the AMP button will cause the Quick Save button to become enabled. As if the AMP button state change isn't always "dirtying" the preset. And if it isn't, maybe performing a Quick Save (after making some other changes) won't properly save the state? I didn't try to verify that. Just a guess. For others' sake, let's hope my unit has a problem, though for my sake I hope a new firmware release fixes this. I've observed another problem. When a preset is assigned to multiple banks and I perform an edit and then a Quick Save, I am only sometimes presented with the "Preset has multiple assignments" message. Even when the message does not pop up, it appears that my edits are properly saved such that I can recall the preset from either location without a problem. This is making me nervous, though... Now, one more thing, though this is a feature request. The reason I'm saving presets to multiple locations is that I keep all of them in alphabetic order (more or less, since reordering is painful) in one set of banks, and then assign them in setlist order (which changes every gig!) in another set of banks. It'd sure be nice if the software would make this easier by supporting drag and drop reordering. For that matter, I don't really care about banks of 5 - next and previous footswitches are all that's needed, perhaps with a display of previous, current and next presets (on the iPad). Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MediaMan09 Posted February 16, 2012 Members Share Posted February 16, 2012 We each have our own use-cases for how we use the ipb-10. Mine is one where: a) I will normally NOT have the ipad connected b) I will initailly be using many of the factory presets As such, I will have no way to readily "see" what the presets are. So, I want to compile my own ready reference file of the presets , that I could keep on the computer in my music room, viewable on my large screen monitor.. just a simple spreadsheet. (Essentailly this is what one would see in the factory tab of the nexus app.) I know its anal, but hey, it works for me I can build it from scratch, as I have started to do, but before I take it too far, is any of this data already available in electronic format ? (I already grabbed what I could from the manual) . I could then bring it into my spreadheet and save myself some time! See sample here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mck Posted February 16, 2012 Members Share Posted February 16, 2012 You can take snapshots of your iPad screen when you're looking at the factory tab. It gets saved as a photo on your iPad. You can then print it or look at it on your screen. Not as versatile as having a sortable Excel etc list but should be something to get you going.PS - Power button & home button pressed simulatenously gets you the screen capture. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MediaMan09 Posted February 16, 2012 Members Share Posted February 16, 2012 Originally Posted by mck PS - Power button & home button pressed simulatenously gets you the screen capture. Hope this helps. For my little index project, -populating the banks, numbers, names, and genre is not a problem - already done. -populating the name of the amp and cabinet - havent found a listing yet - may need to go brute force on that one -re pedals, ya, the screen shots are an interesting idea (a lot of clicks to capture them all, but it would make for a nice web page presentation..although they still dont show names of the amps/cabinets. This whole index/screen thing would be a nice feature for Digitech to have on thier web site ( hint, hint).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DigiTechRep Posted February 16, 2012 Members Share Posted February 16, 2012 Originally Posted by MediaMan09 This whole index/screen thing would be a nice feature for Digitech to have on thier web site ( hint, hint)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MediaMan09 Posted February 17, 2012 Members Share Posted February 17, 2012 The visual index of presets ( and utlimately applied settings) was pretty easy to put together. I cant beliwve how fast one can create 100 screenshots on an ipad !!)So now I have what I was after for ready reference on my local pc.For those who are interested, I placed a copy here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted February 17, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 17, 2012 Thanks for the contribution to the thread!! Much appreciated, and I'm sure others will appreciate it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mck Posted February 18, 2012 Members Share Posted February 18, 2012 Originally Posted by MediaMan09 For those who are interested, I placed a copy here This is amazing! Thank you very much for putting in the effort and sharing it so. Very nicely presented material as well. Very very nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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