Members PRSnotPOS Posted August 25, 2006 Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 My friend and I have been working on a song for the past few weeks and one of the reasons it's been taking so long is becuase he messes around too much. Like he will come up with a chord progression, then I'll write a solo to the chords and then like the next day he'll try to change the chords. I told him that we just need to pick something and stick with it because I write my solos based on his chords so it's not fair to change them. Then he started telling me that he's bored out of his mind when he's playing the chords THAT HE WROTE and that he has to dumb everything down for me. I told him not to be selfish and that the next song we write will be his solo song. What do you guys think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raggety Posted August 25, 2006 Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 Its a team effort and he's letting the team down by chopping and changing all the time, thats is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members red|dragon Posted August 25, 2006 Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 kick your friend out of the band and find a new rhythm player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stackabones Posted August 25, 2006 Members Share Posted August 25, 2006 Come up with your chord progessions! Also, chord progressions aren't usually the most original part of the song (and according to copyright law, you can't copyright a chord progression). Look at how many songs have been written over the blues changes or the rhythm changes. Find a songbook. Take the chords. Write your solo or melody over them. Get a looper. Lay down the chords in the looper. Fire bored guitar player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members identity Posted August 27, 2006 Members Share Posted August 27, 2006 sound like he's writing a new song every day. learn to improvise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdemon Posted August 28, 2006 Members Share Posted August 28, 2006 I can't deal with players who change a song constantly. I mean, it's one thing to tweak & improve as you go, but at some point you need to let the tune go so you can create a new one. Then you create a body of work where you've got jems & you've got a few clunkers--but you have options! Simple or complex, a song goes where it goes, but at some point you learn to feel when it ends. Or at least when to move on and come back later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted August 28, 2006 Members Share Posted August 28, 2006 You guys aren't writing. From your description it sounds more like jamming. So what else is perfect... You know what though, USE PENCIL AND PAPER. Write down the chord progressions your pal comes up with. With all that stuff logged, maybe you can be more intellectual about your creative endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PRSnotPOS Posted August 28, 2006 Author Members Share Posted August 28, 2006 1001 gear... we have done all of that and he still tries to change it. Everything we do is heavily theory based. It's not just two idiots playing random notes. We usually develop a structure for everything. Oh well I think we are making progress now. I told him we won't come back to the song until I'm done writing my solo for it. Now we are going to work on his solo song. He'll probably try to change that too. Maybe well try to record them and post them when we are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted August 28, 2006 Members Share Posted August 28, 2006 Sorry for undershooting it. No condescension intended. I now think that unless you have a deadline or just want a copywrite, the extra material should be quite useful in formulating an actual version. Carefull not to leave out the inspiration is what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Knottyhed Posted August 31, 2006 Members Share Posted August 31, 2006 Originally posted by PRSnotPOS My friend and I have been working on a song for the past few weeks and one of the reasons it's been taking so long is becuase he messes around too much. Like he will come up with a chord progression, then I'll write a solo to the chords and then like the next day he'll try to change the chords. I told him that we just need to pick something and stick with it because I write my solos based on his chords so it's not fair to change them. Then he started telling me that he's bored out of his mind when he's playing the chords THAT HE WROTE and that he has to dumb everything down for me. I told him not to be selfish and that the next song we write will be his solo song. What do you guys think about this? Some people just aint good at working in a team, even if you're just jamming there needs to be an element of predictability, he needs to listen to you and you need to listen to him and you need some level of agreement on what chords/rythmn you'll be using. If you're trying to write a structured song then why try to write a solo until the song/chord progression is 100% down? My advice would be get him to decide what the hell he is playing, then record it, then work on your solo and then try playing it together. I can see his point that sitting there playing the same chords over and over aint a whole bag of fun so try and work it so that he doesn't have to do that for long periods. One other idea - why not just try writing a complex tune involving 2 guitars rather than have some guy doing the donkey work with the chords and somebody playing a solo over the top? That way you both have something interesting to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Virgman Posted September 2, 2006 Members Share Posted September 2, 2006 John and Paul had the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PRSnotPOS Posted September 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 2, 2006 "Over one thousand posts. 90% of which are total crap." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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