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It bugged me that much. There was plenty more about that movie that was kinda stupid (like the {censored}ing horrible cliched final scene), but I honestly thought the "Sabotage" scene was
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dumb. I want to be able to suspend disbelief when I watch a movie. Don't you? I found this scene completely unbelievable, and to me it seemed like a piss-poor excuse to shoe-horn some rockin' tunes in to a movie to please the popcorn monkeys. Maybe I should just leave my views on commercialism at home when I go see a blockbuster movie. I didn't want to argue about it on the internet, I just wanted to state my opinion, which you are welcome to take, leave or stick up your ass.




But would a ten-year-old listen to it, or would it be just the social anthropologists, music historians and obsessive 20th century retro crowd?

 

 

i agree with you. i haven't seen the film, so can only imagine how {censored} that will be when i do see it.

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Wow, it's totally outlandish to assume someone who loves 300 year old automobiles enough to keep one working (even though it had to have been through 2 major wars, including a nuclear war that devastated the planet) might, just MIGHT also be interested in music from that era? Not exactly the biggest stretch, is it?

 

Heck, if we're nitpicking music, why should the Star Wars cantina band be playing diatonic music? Why would their culture have evolved the same 12 tones we have in western music? Why would their songs be in the same time signatures, key signatures, etc, etc, etc...?

 

Geez. Just smile, sit back, and enjoy the most fun Trek film ever made. I like some of this cast better than the original cast (to me, the most uncomfortable and out of place actor in the film was Nimoy). Sure, there were some cliches and coincidences, but the original Trek CREATED those cliches and was built upon those coincidences.

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Wow, it's totally outlandish to assume someone who loves 300 year old automobiles enough to keep one working (even though it had to have been through 2 major wars, including a nuclear war that devastated the planet) might, just MIGHT also be interested in music from that era? Not exactly the biggest stretch, is it?


Heck, if we're nitpicking music, why should the Star Wars cantina band be playing diatonic music? Why would their culture have evolved the same 12 tones we have in western music? Why would their songs be in the same time signatures, key signatures, etc, etc, etc...?


Geez. Just smile, sit back, and enjoy the most fun Trek film ever made. I like some of this cast better than the original cast (to me, the most uncomfortable and out of place actor in the film was Nimoy). Sure, there were some cliches and coincidences, but the original
Trek
CREATED those cliches and was built upon those coincidences.

 

 

Seriously, I'll never understand people who pull apart movies until it's not even enjoyable anymore. It's like some people and music. "That guy should have played G to C to D not G to C to F!"

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Wow, it's totally outlandish to assume someone who loves 300 year old automobiles enough to keep one working (even though it had to have been through 2 major wars, including a nuclear war that devastated the planet) might, just MIGHT also be interested in music from that era? Not exactly the biggest stretch, is it?


Heck, if we're nitpicking music, why should the Star Wars cantina band be playing diatonic music? Why would their culture have evolved the same 12 tones we have in western music? Why would their songs be in the same time signatures, key signatures, etc, etc, etc...?


Geez. Just smile, sit back, and enjoy the most fun Trek film ever made. I like some of this cast better than the original cast (to me, the most uncomfortable and out of place actor in the film was Nimoy). Sure, there were some cliches and coincidences, but the original
Trek
CREATED those cliches and was built upon those coincidences.



Some people don't get it DK. They'd rather just troll and argue.

Good post. :thu:

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it doesn't represent lazy filmmaking as much as it represents catering/submitting to teen taste in music to sell the movie (at the expense of artistic vision). this is nothing new for hollywood.

 

 

Artistic vision? In a star trek movie?

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I loved the movie. I went in really not knowing what to expect, but it had a few things going for it (10 of 'em):

1. The story was workable, relatively compelling, and pretty well written.

2. The CGI was great. Not overdone at all. It served the film and never took over.

3. Redeveloping characters that are not only part of current pop culture, but also (given the 40+ history) almost historic seems like an impossible thing (without really alienating the die-hards). I think that this film not only pulled it off, but laid the groundwork for a really compelling "new" franchise. I actually cared about almost all of the characters (except Uhura - The actor who played that character had none of the weird depth that was already developed through the years. I liked the fact that we had no idea what her first name was - ).

4. When I was watching the film, I was initially ticked about the Beastie Boys song. Later on, I just didn't care.

5. New Spock rules. Rules. Well played.

6. I kind of like Scotty's little buddy.

7. The new Kirk isn't a pretty boy. That's a good thing. Plus, I liked the nod to Shatner in the last scene "Buckle up."

8. The new Bones rules. Great portrayal. Pretty much perfect (I just wished that we could see him smoking a cigarette. The original Bones always looked like he'd smoked one too many - ).

9. The alternate universe explanation actually kind of works. Nice reset that just opens up the whole thing.

10. I actually had two goosebump moments. They're rare in movies recently.

Dug the movie a lot.

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This was my biggest problem with an otherwise excellent movie. Are we really expected to believe that troubled 23rd century pre-pubescent hellraisers listen to 20th century hip-hop/rock crossover? To "young Kirk", that song is 300 years old
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Keep in mind we dont have music that was recorded 300 years ago today. If we did... yeah we might listen to it.

Also... we do have access to music that was written that long ago. and again, we do listen to it.

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