Members droolmaster0 Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Point taken and I agree.I just wish he could write right the name of Colombia. That may add credibility and less "gringobility". You sound like you're about to invent the term 'gringobilly'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Birdienumnum Posted July 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 I'm sorry DM, I'm going to sleep . . . hope this thread is still here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 You sound like you're about to invent the term 'gringobilly'. Rockin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members droolmaster0 Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 It is not "sometimes". It is NORMAL.But then, in Latin America is does NOT cause any problem calling "black" to a black guy. You should know that in Columbia. Maybe not "politically correct" but not racial at all. No one cares.Calling "fat" to a fat, "skinny" to a thin, "chinito" to an asian... that causes ZERO problems in some countries. We have not the racial stupidity some other countries may have and then, I have to agree, it may be difficult for some of us to really understand how lame is having people getting offended by that.I guess asking first something in the likes of "I am not OK with this, please do not do it again" instead of jumping immediately to claim racism or whatever else, is the key to getting understood. Gus - I'll try one more time with this. The word 'gringo', or 'black', in themselves are not offensive....But, similarly to what Paolo said to me, memorialized in my signature quote, if I were to say to a black person when pissed off at them - you are just a typical black - it becomes offensive, because in that context it is being used as a negative stereotype. In the context that Paolo called me gringo, it was certainly being used negatively, as a slur, and it was so {censored}ing obvious that I have to laugh at these attempts to deny it. If I were mad at you, and said - Gus you're ignorant - you're acting like a typical Mexican, OF COURSE that would be offensive, and you'd be right to take it so, even though Mexican is not a negative term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus Lozada Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 If I were mad at you, and said - Gus you're ignorant - you're acting like a typical Mexican, OF COURSE that would be offensive, and you'd be right to take it so, even though Mexican is not a negative term. Again, point taken. Anyway, a "typical gringo" mispells Colombia. Unfortunately for some, those are the examples better known about americans out of the USA. You know, a real Mexican Mariachi hat is this: And then, many "gringos" do really think is something like this: Another example is all the bunch of gringos partying like crazy on "Cinco de Mayo" thinking it is the Mexican's independence day. I am no one to "defend" Paolo, but I am pretty sure that is what he meant while saying "You are a prime example of a gringo". And still, it was not "offensive" as in calling you -or the gringos, for that matter- "gringo = ignorant", because it is not in any sense the direct meaning... but instead, saying something like "typical american citizen confusing stuff beyond the borders of USA" which I am sure davidplasti-k, Paolo, ChristianRock and other members from other countries -like myself- may have immediately thought. After that, he called you "ignorant" for mispelling Colombia but that is another story already discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillyOctagon Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 I hope McCain is not elected president. If he becomes president he will declare martial law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syncretism Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Oh, and Niall - Obama was never anything even approaching a liberal. Yeah, I know, so let's call him "mainstream liberal" or whatever term you prefer; the consensus in the media is that he's liberal, and that's not limited to your National Review-style media. His sudden and decisive hops to the right are nonetheless striking. More so, I imagine, for most of his liberal voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Allerian Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Man, I need coffee - turns out I keep my apathy at the bottom of the cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members droolmaster0 Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Yeah, I know, so let's call him "mainstream liberal" or whatever term you prefer; the consensus in the media is that he's liberal, and that's not limited to your National Review-style media. His sudden and decisive hops to the right are nonetheless striking. More so, I imagine, for most of his liberal voters. I guess that I just don't take the American media seriously at all, and that his turn to the right isn't sudden or decisive. In fact, it's totally predictable, given who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 So I stopped by the Political forum to see if it's worth spending some time there and then I read some threads and then I ... Thanks for that, now I need more coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 I haven't checked out the Poli forum yet. Whatever you do, though, don't go to Open Jam. Words escape me to describe its particular brand of postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Speaking of politics, no cellphones while driving in California today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Speaking of politics, no cellphones while driving in California today! Better than nothing, I guess. If I were king of California, I would ban the use of mobile devices while driving PERIOD, hands-free or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Hmmm. But I can talk to another person in my car while driving. Or would that also be outlawed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Not the same. It takes more concentration to have a phone conversation than it does to talk to a passenger. When talking to a passenger, you get more communication cues than just plain audio. You also get body language and because you're both in the same environment, you can adjust your level of conversation according to driving conditions on the fly. A passenger can also act as another set of eyes, while someone on the phone can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 I don't look at people when I talk to them when I am driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Yes you do. You just don't stare at them. Even when you're looking at the road, you see gestures and such peripherally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Failure. They are more of a distraction than handsfree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Is not failure! I has studies! CURSE YOU!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 I am actually more of a distraction to the people trying to talk in my car. They start watching the road real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Hamburglar Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Comparing Obama's liberalness in terms of the past 100 years instead of the current pool of politicians is just ridiculous. He's not Huey Long, get over it. He's anti-war, supports more taxes for public programs and less tax cuts for corporations, and supports a health care plan as close to universal health care as could possibly be proposed within a system of checks and balances with such political extremes. Liberalism and socialism are not the same thing. I'd love to hear droolmaster define what liberalism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 Hamburglar get out of here with your name calling, you're going to ruin this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Hamburglar Posted July 1, 2008 Members Share Posted July 1, 2008 You're right, sorry. I edited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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