Members Birdienumnum Posted August 1, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 1, 2008 I think we know the answer, then. Nice. The thread seemed to die with the passage of the FISA Amendment. Sorry. The death of this thread seems to have been greatly exaggerated, to paraphrase Twain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AnCap Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 Finally, this arrived from amazon. Did you know you can order it from Barnes and Noble, but they refuse to carry it in their stores? It got up to #9 on the NY Times bestseller list anyway, thanks to da internets. It's too bad - booksellers live in fear, like everyone else these days . . . Couldn't you prosecute every president for murder? Oh, who's being naive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 Couldn't you prosecute every president for murder?Oh, who's being naive? Did you read the book? I'd think its answered in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AnCap Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 Did you read the book? I'd think its answered in there. So the book details how other President's have not committed acts that would be considered murder if they were done by a private citizen? Doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sizzlemeister Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 It's funny how you get to know your online comrades just by their writing. Like, an ADSR can't come in here without trying really hard to hide who they are. So, welcome back, Drool! Or, am I not supposed to give that away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 The chicken crossed the road because all the cool kids like Brittney and Paris were doing it! And we have a jackpot winner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Birdienumnum Posted August 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 There's a great editorial in the NY Times about McCain's anti-Obama spot featuring Britney and Paris: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/02/opinion/02herbert.html?hp Key paragraphs: "Now, from the hapless but increasingly venomous McCain campaign, comes the slimy Britney Spears and Paris Hilton ad. The two highly sexualized women (both notorious for displaying themselves to the paparazzi while not wearing underwear) are shown briefly and incongruously at the beginning of a commercial critical of Mr. Obama. The Republican National Committee targeted Harold Ford with a similarly disgusting ad in 2006 when Mr. Ford, then a congressman, was running a strong race for a U.S. Senate seat in Tennessee. The ad, which the committee described as a parody, showed a scantily clad woman whispering, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Birdienumnum Posted August 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 So the book details how other President's have not committed acts that would be considered murder if they were done by a private citizen? Doubtful. After reading the book, I'll post Bugliosi's thoughts on that point, assuming they exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Birdienumnum Posted August 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 It's funny how you get to know your online comrades just by their writing. Like, an ADSR can't come in here without trying really hard to hide who they are. So, welcome back, Drool! Or, am I not supposed to give that away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ARP Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 First the surge in Iraq ...now off shore drilling...these 11th hour changes of heart are interesting http://www.palmbeachpost.com/localnews/content/state/epaper/2008/08/01/0801obama1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Birdienumnum Posted August 2, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 Yes, there's a more illuminating article about it at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ . . . personally if any new drilling is done in that limited and cautious way, in tandem with the promotion of wind power, etc., I don't find anything wrong with it. It wouldn't provide any short term relief, but just the smallest amount of new drilling would send a signal to the Saudis and probably achieve a price drop. Anyway, read it for yourself . . . As for the surge, Obama is still against it. He hasn't changed on that. . . good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Etienne Rambert Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 Viva La Revolution O-BA-MA! Viva La Revolution YO-MA-MA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 As far as I can tell, however, Obama's current position on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is virtually indistinguishable from that of the Bush administration. Whether the policy is based on the surge working, or not, is really not relevant. For once, Bush refuses to set a due date on the Iraq debacle. Obama does. Second, I question if Obama or any other president elect ever would have done such a foolish thing in the first place, even when intelligence could not confirm the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted August 2, 2008 Members Share Posted August 2, 2008 The differences are inconsequential. Obama is for setting a withdrawal date with some rather heavy disclaimers - lots of troops left behind to fight 'terrorists' and also private contractors....lots of leeway there. And he has said repeatedly that the whole plan is open to revision depending on what the military commanders say. he also proposes escalating the war in Afghanistan. The Bush administrations position is close to identical to that at this point. It will be close when the office changes hands. What should Obama do? Retrieve them the day he takes office? He has to deal with the situation the Bush administration leaves 1:1 on day one. Only then he can change things. However, if this change is not enough for you, you might want to vote for McCain!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members idiotboy Posted August 6, 2008 Members Share Posted August 6, 2008 Finally, here's a presidential candidate I can...erm..get behind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Birdienumnum Posted August 6, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 6, 2008 "But then that wrinkly white-haired guy used me in his campaign ad . . ." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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