Members hangwire Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 between the classic players and blacktop, what are the opinions of people who have used both? spec wise they are pretty similar with wood and scale, right? I am intrigued by the blacktop due to lower price and simpler "no extra tone controls on the upper bout", but I would want the one in black and would require these updates/changes: - new pickguard [tort- I have a jazzmaster one, but I don't know if it will fit???]- new bridge pickup [gfs surf 90?]- the vibrato doesn't have the "lock"? can someone confirm? I LOVE the lock on jazzmasters, I would get a ebay lock one and replace if so.- pickup cobver for neck to white instead of black. so I guess with that in mind... $150ish of upgrades + $440 = lets call it $600. still $200 cheaper than the classic players thoughts for discussion on this topic??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aedes Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I haven't played the blacktop, but i do own a classic player. If you're going to replace the pickups, why not just get a used CP? I see them on CL for 500-600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Keith SIO Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I wanted to spend as little as possible on a jazzmaster. With that in mind, i tried the blacktop, it was garbage so i bought a cij jazzmaster the same day. Plays and sounds like a jazzmaster. Blacktop...no wayyyy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thezeng Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 Does anyone know of the quality control on the Blacktops?That might be a factor as to why they are so cheap. I would say get the Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hand Amputation Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I have a CP Jag and Jazzy. While the Blacktop Jazzmasters are definitely nice guitars, I was MUCH happier with the CP series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gunner Recall Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 The CP jm pups are bar-magnet and hotter/higher output (though some people like it that way). A lot of people are digging the BT neck pup, it's somewhat more traditional. The CP has a TOM bridge, kinda like the mascis JM.Blacktop has what some are calling a jm/mustang hybrid (JM w/slotted saddles) which is pretty unique.Both suffer from the JM "rattle", nothing some heavy strings and/or some loctite can't solve. Both are MIM.Electronics are a cheap/easy fix on either if they aren't up to par. Really though, just try them out and see how they feel. That's the important part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members woolyh Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 That might be a factor as to why they are so cheap. They also have Strat necks which probably gives them much better economies of scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 a cp for $500 would be nice... haven't seen it yet, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aedes Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 a cp for $500 would be nice... haven't seen it yet, though... yeah 500 might be a bit a low...but we've got one listed locally for 600 http://raleigh.craigslist.org/msg/2081154785.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 yeah 500 might be a bit a low...but we've got one listed locally for 600http://raleigh.craigslist.org/msg/2081154785.html nice craigslist idiot there... $1100!!!!!!!!!!!! DONT BELIEVE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Aedes Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 hahaha. look it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hand Amputation Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I got mine for $475 locally via Craigslist. Still had the plastic on the pickguard. LOVE it. Haven't touched any other guitar since. I say go CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TomCTC Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I dont know what it is, but every Blacktop Jazzmaster and Tele I've played have had the action set way high on them. Like clearly an issue here high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I dont know what it is, but every Blacktop Jazzmaster and Tele I've played have had the action set way high on them. Like clearly an issue here high. I played oen at Cream City Music here in Milwaukee and they must set them up before putting them out, because teh balcktop was suprsingly low and fast... almost too low ... like I was playing some 80s Kramer junk... I guess shop to shop difference? You would think they woudl want to make a guitar set up in best condition for sale??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hangwire Posted December 14, 2010 Author Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I got mine for $475 locally via Craigslist. Still had the plastic on the pickguard. LOVE it. Haven't touched any other guitar since. I say go CP. nice score how do you like the pickups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hand Amputation Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I love them. I am glad they went with a "hotter" option with this series. They sound fantastic clean, great with overdrive, and they scream with fuzz. I'm about to get in the studio with it later this month. I will post some links to the songs it will be featured on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members renula Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 475, that is a deal. congrats man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gorebuc Posted December 14, 2010 Members Share Posted December 14, 2010 I spent some time with both the other day. The best sound on either is the neck pickup on the BT. That thing is really special. The worst sound on either is the HB on the BT. Too hot and mid-rangey. Didn't care for the middle sound either. I really think the bodies and necks are the same. The BT did have slightly high action, but I'm sure that could be dialed out. I found I like the rhythm circuit more than I imagined. I wouldn't mind either one, but a used black CP would be hard to turn down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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