Members Loobs Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 I haven't listed to any Mahavishnu stuff for ages but I'd always assumed it was just a cranked Marshall. Someone's suggestion earlier in this thread of Maestro effects sounds pretty realistic. Another Lifetime shot: Les Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveinLondon Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 Quite probably. Jack Bruce joined the Lifetime band in 1970. By '71 'Inner Mounting Flame' dropped, with JM using a black LP Custom in the sessions. Found a big pic of Lifetime in '69 with JM using a Mustang: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_dVPBBf9Ti6M/TRJIDo5T5PI/AAAAAAAAAIU/k7Yh8hr_2Vo/s1600/Lifetime+7.JPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 Awesome. Are there pics of JM using a LP Custom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveinLondon Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 (Don't think this is the same guitar - p90s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 Ace! Is the penultimate shot a scan of an album insert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveinLondon Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 Yep, 'Inner Mounting Flame'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WAWBanks Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 Loobs, care to post a Spotify playlist for a brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 of Mahavishnu stuff, or Miles w/ JM, or both? I'm sure I could knock something up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WAWBanks Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 Both, I just put on the inner mounting flame from a quick read through of the thread and I'm loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 It's amazing. http://open.spotify.com/user/blubin/playlist/4kz0tOylsDM8QEYnLsf030 here you go, some cool 60s/70s JM {censored} that sprung to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WAWBanks Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 much appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveinLondon Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'm getting off topic here but how have I never seen this video before? Elvis Costello, John McLaughlin and The Roots? http://vimeo.com/37997479 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveinLondon Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 English_Bob, found the Jack Johnson box set on Spotify (I've got the free version): http://open.spotify.com/album/6ulqB1h9Jui0o8wtj3rVVv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 No worries. Hope you enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 8, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 The BEST book by far on Miles' electric music is 'Miles Beyond' by Paul Tingen. It might have slipped out of print but it's well worth seeking out.I might look for that. I've read Miles' autobiography but it would be nice to compare Miles' version to one with less drugs and "mother{censored}ers" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonnyj Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 I'll be a ram and say the definitive Mahavishnu album and subsequent tour is the 1984 album simply titled Mahavishnu. On a simple basis I like the sound of the record and the band as a whole. It was more or less a reunion in name. The album only hinted at what you were in for live. It featured Billy Cobham on drums but it also had Dan Gotlieb as the official drummer though Cobham covered most of the drums from my understanding Gotlieb did the tour. The other three players are nothing short of fantastic and are all well and alive still putting out music. Mitchell Forman-Keys, Bill Evans-Sax/Reeds, and Jonas Helborg-bass. Jonas Helborg was has a style of slap bass going on before it was a household Flea name. I have everything officially released and a few boots but the 1984 album is my favorite. Couple of things come to mind beyond the fabulous playing is by this time you have the mature McGlaughlin who is still playing like fire but with the compassion he earned and learned over the years. In concert you could see he was more generous at being a listener than just lettin loose none stop like one of the posters mentioned above. I have no evidence though that just cause he was lettin loose doesn't mean a negative thing. I've played with many players who blow constantly it boarders on attention neediness or something :-) Another thing is it was the dawn of digital recording and and instrumentation. The DX7, New England Digital Synclavier which McGlaughlin used figured prominently in my preference for this version of Mahavishnu. Most of all I like the compositions and where I was at the time of it's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveinLondon Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 80 minutes worth! Tuck in! (OT: Looks like JM's only pedal is a wah) [video=youtube;iK-unFle32w] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Villano Dude Posted May 8, 2012 Members Share Posted May 8, 2012 I guess he's a big lad. All that yorkshire country air growing up I'd heard that too about the Mustang. I think it's the same guitar on "Bitches Brew" too- similar tone. Still working my way through Miles' stuff from that period. Haven't got round to those two yet (my wife can't stand Miles' electric stuff either, so it always gets passed over when she buys me CDs for birthdays and stuff... ) Seems logical to assume it's a Fuzz Face- it seems to have been the "flavour of the month" fuzz in the late 60s too. I hear all sorts of odd overtones and ring-mod-like intermodulation and stuff though... I've never owned a proper Fuzz Face- I built a BYOC Tonebender kit and modded it to switch out the first transistor stage, which was supposed to get me a fuzzface sound, but it sounds bad. I think a decent FF clone should be on my list of stuff to buy. Oh, check those albums whenever you can, those are definitely worth a listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 Oh, check those albums whenever you can, those are definitely worth a listen. I've got "Pangaea" now- gotta say, it's very similar to "Dark Magus" for the first half, only the playing and the sound quality aren't as good. The later parts have their own thing happening though. AFAIK, Agharta was always the more well-regarded of the pair though, and I haven't heard that yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A.P. Ryder Posted May 9, 2012 Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 The Paul Tingen book is very good. There is another one called "Running the Voodoo Down" by Phil Freeman, which covers similar territory.Oh, and ... www.tingen.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Loobs Posted May 9, 2012 Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yeah, 'Miles' by Miles Davis is a pretty tedious book. I'm gonna check one of these others out. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A.P. Ryder Posted May 9, 2012 Members Share Posted May 9, 2012 Yeah, 'Miles' by Miles Davis is a pretty tedious book. I'm gonna check one of these others out. Cheers. Aw,c'mon! I laughed my head off when he was telling the story about driving around NYC in a taxi cab with Charlie Parker, whose getting a bj from a "white woman" while he's eating fried chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yeah, 'Miles' by Miles Davis is a pretty tedious book. I'm gonna check one of these others out. Cheers.It wasn't that bad. I'd forgotten the Charlie Parker taxicab fried chicken blowjob story but there's some absolute classic rock & roll excess stories in the first half of the book. It's less interesting in the later part, and considering his views on the damage heroin did to his generation of players in the 40s and 50s, Miles seems to be surprisingly uncritical of his behavior during his "retirement" to drug-induced catatonia in the late 70s. He also manages to paint a fairly positive picture of himself, considering what a misogynistic, self absorbed and borderline racist arsehole he appears to have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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