Members gambit Posted May 10, 2012 Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 i've just posted a rant on the Vox forums about them not releasing a manual despite the pedals being available. hopefully some knobhead in the marketing department will realise what a bunch of {censored}wits they are / will finish up with the translations, so it can get posted some time this week!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hugbot Posted May 10, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 10, 2012 What, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cutlunch Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 this manualhttp://www.voxamps.de/uploads/media/DelayLab_OM_EFG1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Videos at YouTube are just bad right now, not a real decent demo yet. I'm curious, since Vox stuff usually gets cheaper in Japan than anything USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 this manual http://www.voxamps.de/uploads/media/DelayLab_OM_EFG1.pdf YES! Vox Germany: 1 Vox everywhere else: 0 That's my reading for today all set. Happy with what I've read so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 this manual http://www.voxamps.de/uploads/media/DelayLab_OM_EFG1.pdf thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mind_Riot89 Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Cheers for the manual link! All seems pretty much as expected; now we just need to hear the thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Vintage: Tube Echo This models a tape echo with a vacuum tube preamplifier effect. The preamplifier effect is also applied to dry sound. they copied the DL-4. should have had a dry-thru option like the M-series. Dual delays appear to be custom set, ie, not like the DD-20 where one is limited to 100ms. Dual Band delays sound interesting: This setting arranges the Lo Band Delay that is applied with low frequency and the Hi Band Delay that is applied with high frequency in parallel. Looper mode: can also choose between 3 delay types. Analog, Digital, Space. this suggests that the reverse delay modes also have forward delays and you can mix between fwd and reverse.. interesting.. DD-5'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 this manualhttp://www.voxamps.de/uploads/media/DelayLab_OM_EFG1.pdf The parameter chart at the end is more informative on the specifics- looks like the space delay incorporates a pitch shifter and the parallel dual delay mode allows the second delay as a ratio of the first with a separate mix control. "Constant Parameters" seems to be something akin to global tap tempo, although it's not clear whether it works with preset sounds. It reads like a poor translation in to english from another language. Still, looks promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Looper mode: can also choose between 3 delay types. Analog, Digital, Space. Intrigued by the digital delay/looper. Looks like you could use the delay essentially as a separate loop with a different loop time to the first. Interesting 80s-King-Crimson-meets-Steve-Reich possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 i think i'll give it a miss. even though it looks way better than the DL-4 i fear the mix/delay level issue was too fundamental a flaw with the DL-4 i had.. the tube echo effecting the dry signal is {censored} (it's like a filter is applied to all your distortions), so will need to hear some demo's to convince me otherwise. i think i saw a Frankfurt video yesterday with someone demo'ing the reverb on it. it sounded like a nice reverb.. like the delays had been dialled down but the reverb remained. that's definitely an advantage over the DL-4. bad cam clipping.. but: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 ^ I'll be sure to check how the mix/level knob works as soon as I get mine. Not sure whether I can put together a demo at home but I might have to have a bash, if only to show Vox how to do it :poke: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Vox demos do seem to be consistently alarming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 a demo would be good.. but even just a critical review would be fine. all the videos i've seen of the pedal so far have the mix knob set 50/50... and no-one's put the feedback up to edge-of-oscillation yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 ^ there's a little bit of oscillation stuff in the last soundclip in the link on the last page. It does that Bittersweet Symphony "birdsong" thing that you can get from the DL-4's tape modes for sure. Another one for the list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gjhardwick Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 {censored}.. absolute music has confirmed they have 1 in stock.. oh no they don't! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 oh no they don't! ;-) report back asap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 report back asap!! Definitely. If it really is bobbins I might just have time to cancel my order with PMT gambit: did you see the Premier Guitar print review? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members triviani Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Saw one today, but didn't have time to try it at the store.. Would say it looks big, like three pedals in a row, and not really sexy looking. Does it has just a plastic case? Have to come back this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gjhardwick Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 the Premier Guitar review says that the case is die cast metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gambit Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 Definitely. If it really is bobbins I might just have time to cancel my order with PMT gambit: did you see the Premier Guitar print review? no? is it as benign a review as i imagine it to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 no? is it as benign a review as i imagine it to be? Pretty much. They seemed reasonably impressed. I'll keep an eye out for it in the UK guitar mags, although they're likely to be just as keen to keep their advertising revenues constant... You'll certainly get an in-depth critical review from yours truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members captions87 Posted May 11, 2012 Members Share Posted May 11, 2012 I plan to read this manual inside out and by the time mine gets here I'll know exactly what it can and can't do...and will finally post a decent demo vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members english_bob Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 i've just posted a rant on the Vox forums about them not releasing a manual despite the pedals being available. hopefully some knobhead in the marketing department will realise what a bunch of {censored}wits they are / will finish up with the translations, so it can get posted some time this week!! Looks like your campaign has worked. Manual is on the UK site now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gjhardwick Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Having read (the not very well written) manual, I have a couple of concerns. In the advertising blurb, the website says the following about the looper;"Plus, the DelayLab is able to create performances overflowing with originality by adjusting the L/R delay times independently, or by attenuating the volume of the looped phrases each time you overdub so that the latest overdub will stand out." However, it doesn't actually state if you can control the volume attenuation of the loop manually - the manual only states the Custom Space Delay looper mode has this feature and that it appears to be by a pre-set amount. A shame if this is the case, as I use the feedback control on my loopers all the time to fade out older overdubs, etc... I also find it quite funny that the actual delay times available are not specified in the manual at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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