Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 I noticed this over the weekend...I'm playin' my amp and there's fizz outta nowhere I just can't seem to get rid of...I usually use a guitar center instrument cable, but for whatever reason I had a monster rock cable plugged in... so I swithced it up and, BAM...instant tone happiness again.. anyone else experience this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nrarocks Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Yes, which is why I ordered some lava cables last week. Monsters definitely have this high end fizz that is impossible to dial out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alchemist Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Interesting, I knew something sounded off to me when I was using them! I thought I was just crazy:freak: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 I am using them and I don't notice anything, having said that mine are the performer 500 that aren't supposedly made for rock. I notice I get more high end than with the cheapo cables they replaced but I think that is because they aren't cutting out the highs like the cheap ones. You endorsee's always have better hearing than us commoners though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members petelaramee Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 anyone else experience this? I switched from Monster to Voodoo Amps 50/50 cables and I'll never go back. I have my main rig and my backup rig all using Voodoos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 HAH! so I'm NOT crazy...LOL.. it was gettin' very depressing...the night before my gig I'm playin' (and trying to record, failing miserably mind you) and I'm like WTF!!!!!!!!! where's all this fizz comming from!!! sux..I have like $200 in monsters that I collected over the years...sigh.... not sure if the monster speaker cables have the same effect?? I remember a/b'ing monsters and some other cables at a local music store WAYYY back in the day..and they did sound different...they sounded better on that amp (can't remember which one) but I just don't think it's a good match with my QR..i have very mid oriented guitars and pickups...alder w/ jb, ash with screamin demon and that with the monsters into my mid heavy splawn just ain't workin'..so normal cablesa for me from now on =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Sordid1 I am using them and I don't notice anything, having said that mine are the performer 500 that aren't supposedly made for rock. I notice I get more high end than with the cheapo cables they replaced but I think that is because they aren't cutting out the highs like the cheap ones. You endorsee's always have better hearing than us commoners though oh stop...LOL...I WISH I were sponsored by monster...I woulda had $200 in my pocket..and with interest who knows how much that would be worth today...lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daneswede1 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Sordid1 I am using them and I don't notice anything, having said that mine are the performer 500 that aren't supposedly made for rock. I notice I get more high end than with the cheapo cables they replaced but I think that is because they aren't cutting out the highs like the cheap ones. You endorsee's always have better hearing than us commoners though I dont notice this what soever. I use monsters in my series loop for my G Force and for my instrument and jumper cables .All I can tell is they bring out a more vomplet etonal freq? Strange iuve never heard that. Ill have to do the "taste test" with my George L's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blargh Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 I've heard of guitarists using cheapo cable with lots of inductance to cut some highs and smooth their tone out. Expensive or high quality is not necessarily better in the guitar world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Daneswede1 I dont notice this what soever. I use monsters in my series loop for my G Force and for my instrument and jumper cables .All I can tell is they bring out a more vomplet etonal freq? Strange iuve never heard that. Ill have to do the "taste test" with my George L's! what kinda amp/guitar/pups are you using? maybe none of them are excessively bright to begin with? I would say that if someone's got a dark sound that using them would probably be a big (and somewhat cheaper) improvement rather than goin' the whole new guitar/pup/amp route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cougar Hunter Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Whirlwind leader >monster Whirlwind leader cheaper than Monster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtyChains Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by blargh I've heard of guitarists using cheapo cable with lots of inductance to cut some highs and smooth their tone out. Expensive or high quality is not necessarily better in the guitar world. +1, if you are hearing more highs it means the amp is getting more frequency, least IMO. Sounds like you made a better connection of the unwanted kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members '63-Strat Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by shreder75 HAH! so I'm NOT crazy...LOL.. No, you're not crazy at all, I bought some monsters and returned them for the exact same reason. I don't care if my George Ls are rolling off high end compared to monsters, I just like the sound better and that's enough reason for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Daneswede1 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by blargh I've heard of guitarists using cheapo cable with lots of inductance to cut some highs and smooth their tone out. Expensive or high quality is not necessarily better in the guitar world. Now this is something I would NOT practice doing! Using cheap cables to change your Frequency response, +/-dbs coming through or just chopping highs, lows, or mids out of your tone. It seems logical to me to get the best possible tone out of your stock amp and then add one effect pedal / rackmt at a time tweaking your tone from there trying to carefully avoid introducing unwanted and un natural clipping of your tone. That is terrible! Of course if your purposely trying to boost your signal that is something else all together , im talking about cutting freq response through crappy cables / inadaquete outboard gear~!. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Songman68 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Expensive or high quality is not necessarily better in the guitar world. Amen brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 I have had monster guitar cables for years. When using high gain sounds, I always hear loud noises any time I bump the monster cable. I switched to cheapo GC cables and the problem went away. However, I can't really say I noticed a tone difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Daneswede1 Now this is something I would NOT practice doing! Using cheap cables to change your Frequency response, +/-dbs coming through or just chopping highs, lows, or mids out of your tone.It seems logical to me to get the best possible tone out of your stock amp and then add one effect pedal / rackmt at a time tweaking your tone from there trying to carefully avoid introducing unwanted and un natural clipping of your tone. That is terrible! Of course if your purposely trying to boost your signal that is something else all together , im talking about cutting freq response through crappy cables / inadaquete outboard gear~!. I'm not saying use 'crappy' cables..I'm just saying that using the most expensive ones on the market don't always yield the best results =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by '63-Strat No, you're not crazy at all, I bought some monsters and returned them for the exact same reason. I don't care if my George Ls are rolling off high end compared to monsters, I just like the sound better and that's enough reason for me hmm...I'm wondering, they do have a lifetime warranty....but I guess that's just an exchange policy? I'd like to retun them ALL and get some cash back and just buy a cable more to my liking...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by DirtyChains +1, if you are hearing more highs it means the amp is getting more frequency, least IMO. Sounds like you made a better connection of the unwanted kind. heh, that's an interesting twist on things..and I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Songman68 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Here is a good review on guitar cables from Lava Cables site. It backs up what Shredder and Blargh are saying. Make sure you read the reviews of the cables and don't just pay attention to the number rating system. http://www.lavacable.com/myweb/CableSummit4.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Songman68 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Find some way to make them not work Shredder:D . Return them and get new ones and then sell them on the bay. You want get full price out of them but you could at least recover part of that money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dinrodef Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Which monster cables? The performer 500s have a mid spike. The monster jazz have a crisper high end The monster pro1000s are dark and scooped There's nothing wrong with monster cables... in fact they're pretty much the best cables you can buy at the major retail chains.. to get anything better you really need Evidence Audio, Zaolla etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sordid1 Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by shreder75 oh stop...LOL...I WISH I were sponsored by monster...I woulda had $200 in my pocket..and with interest who knows how much that would be worth today...lmao Man I think they sound great with my rig but since I haven't played a Splawn maybe it wouldn't sound as good. Using the four cable method with my GT6 I realized I have like 85 foot of cable going on which is just crazy, definitely sounds better than what I was using before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shreder75 Posted February 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 Originally posted by Songman68 Here is a good review on guitar cables from Lava Cables site. It backs up what Shredder and Blargh are saying. Make sure you read the reviews of the cables and don't just pay attention to the number rating system. http://www.lavacable.com/myweb/CableSummit4.pdf wow, long in depth article! looks to have alotta good info though..I'll have to scope that out later.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soc_monki Posted February 20, 2006 Members Share Posted February 20, 2006 i use whatever i can afford...meaning, i grab whatever is about 15-20 feet long and about 10-15 bucks LOL ive never had a problem...and if it needs repair i do it myself! save pennies anyway i can! LOL never tried a Monster though...but my buddy is using them pretty exclusively in his home studio, and in his car stereo...but thats not guitar cables. different environment.oh Shreder dude...i have a solo i recorded for a song, wanna give it a listen? ill email it to ya LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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