Members The Realm Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 It is impossible that 25 watt can sound like 100 watts have no bearing on getting a tone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members peppe6v6 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 watts have no bearing on getting a tone you can't be more wrong: more watts = less midrangy and nasal in conclusion the tone of that clip was quite good for me a sweet sound maybe a little bit midrangey and fuzzy. not at same level of the real one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jds22 Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 The original version of Ain't talkin' about love in VH1 is recorded with a Phaser and a Wha, that's what I was saying. Hmm, don't think so. I believe it was reverb, echo, MXR flanger on the bass notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Realm Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 you can't be more wrong: more watts = less midrangy and nasal Wrong again! Tell you what, start a new thread, pose that as a question and add a poll and see what happens. You have come to the right forum if you wanna learn about tone but you have to be receptive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 you can't be more wrong: more watts = less midrangy and nasal You are the one who is wrong. You can defend that sound if you want, but it's just excuses when you say things like "POD xt (is) 10 times more Harsh" and "It is impossible that 25 watt can sound like 100". The PODxt is not necessarily harsh sounding, and despite the fact that a 100W amp doesn't sound like a 25W amp, that doesn't mean midrange is less pronounced and nasal in a 100W amp. Those are your anecdotal observations, nothing more. This clip misses the mark of the early VH sound in a few ways. I'm not even being very picky either; I'm just saying this is one of the less convincing clips of those which have been said to have "nailed" the sound. So far no one here has agreed with you either, about it "nailing" that sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Armitage Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Doesn't sound at ALL like the VH brown sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 here it is:Ain't talkin' about love without phaser and whahttp://www.reevesamps.com/assets/audio/Ain%27t%20Talkin.mp3I can't wait to buy it! Sorry, not even close to nailing the tone. Contrast for you: http://www.mojaveampworks.com/5SoundClips/PeaceMaker/PeaceMaker1.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Wrong again!Tell you what, start a new thread, pose that as a question and add a poll and see what happens.You have come to the right forum if you wanna learn about tone but you have to be receptive O.K I'm tryng to be receptive Why watt don't affect tone and does a 25 watt amp can sound like a 50 or 100? I remeber when I was switching my modified DSL to 25 watt the tone changed drastically in a worse way. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Sorry, not even close to nailing the tone.Contrast for you:http://www.mojaveampworks.com/5SoundClips/PeaceMaker/PeaceMaker1.mp3 I don't like this one it sounds colder and very more ears hitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 here it is:Ain't talkin' about love without phaser and whahttp://www.reevesamps.com/assets/audio/Ain%27t%20Talkin.mp3I can't wait to buy it! I thought it sounded okay, but I'm thinking a number of other amps would come closer, i.e. Roccaforte, Marshall (with a slight boost in front), modded Marshalls, etc., but still I thought it sounded okay; maybe just a little less vintage-sounding than some other amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Zachman Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 I don't like this one it sounds colder and very more ears hitting Wow, just.......... wow "shakes head and understands why you thought the 1st clip 'nailed it', oh well" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Realm Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 By the way I like the Fuchs Lucky 7 clips. Did you do them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Please check out VHoholic's 5150 combo clips listed on this link (as well as a number of Marshall ones from his page). IMO he's come extremely close to capturing the early VH tone: http://www.jasonjosephphotography.com/soundclips.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 By the way I like the Fuchs Lucky 7 clips. Did you do them? Yes, at least we like one thing in common;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hairydangler Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Sounds great! Thanks for posting that. The Realm sounds like a condescending know-it-all. Ive got a Reeves Custom 6 on the way and cant wait! I could care less if that was spot on or not because Im not after eddies tone. Just something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members peppe6v6 Posted January 28, 2007 Author Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Please check out VHoholic's 5150 combo clips listed on this link (as well as a number of Marshall ones from his page). IMO he's come extremely close to capturing the early VH tone: http://www.jasonjosephphotography.com/soundclips.htmlGreat work by Vhoholic's! He went more near then the reeves with the 5150, but as I was sayng that clip doesn't say the real worth of the amp, so I'm waiting to listen other clips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Great work by Vhohlic's! He went more near then the reeves with the 5150, but as I was sayng that clip doesn't say the real worth of the amp, so I'm waiting to listen other clips!I hear you. I'd like to have a nice Marshall right now. I can get a reasonable Marshall-type crunch (definitely not saying it nails Ed' tone, though) with my Peavey Ultra Plus on its crunch channel, but only when the amp is turned up enough to push the output tubes a good bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JamesPeters Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 O.K I'm tryng to be receptiveWhy watt don't affect tone and does a 25 watt amp can sound like a 50 or 100? I remeber when I was switching my modified DSL to 25 watt the tone changed drastically in a worse way. Thank you That's your experience with that one amp, the way it works at its voltages with its transformers for its low power mode (however it achieves 25W compared to other amps) and how it was modified (and so on). That's all. That doesn't mean that other amps made as 25W amps sound the same in those regards; you just assumed that because of how your one amp sounds when it's in 25W mode compared to 100W mode. You can't take an observation like that and make a real conclusion about other amps with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Realm Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Sounds great! Thanks for posting that. The Realm sounds like a condescending know-it-all. Well my opinion was the consensus so we're all condescending know it alls? Oh what,since James is a builder you didn't decide to take issue with his strong opinions? don't waste time posting speculative personal remarks when a thread has already confirmed another forumites opinion especialy when heavy weights are in agreement. The guy said "nailed" and it was nothing really even in the ballpark so it's par for the course I'm confident in my opinons relative to my experience/knowledge I like you hairy, don't be a hypocritical idiot. Peace:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Realm Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Ive got a Reeves Custom 6 on the way and cant wait! I could care less if that was spot on or not because Im not after eddies tone. Just something different.Good for you! who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Not even close to EVH, but that is good tone never the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dcooper830 Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 It was not that close to the tone on the original VH tone on that tune. But I liked the tone. It had good growling mids and crisp highs. I didn't think it was thin at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Realm Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 But I liked the tone. It had good growling mids and crisp highs. I didn't think it was thin at all. It's one thing to say "I didn't think it was thin" but to say "I didnt think it was thin at all" tells me your tone deaf troll BTW calling a tone thin doesn't mean it has no validity -nobody on this thread has said that. Ok so provide an example of what you think a thin tone is and one you think is fat and ask people if they agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UncleStashu Posted January 28, 2007 Members Share Posted January 28, 2007 Wow, just.......... wow "shakes head and understands why you thought the 1st clip 'nailed it', oh well" I didn't really care for that clip. Didn't really the first one either, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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