Members Norton666 Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 If you cant get a killer tone out of a Stiletto (version 2) then there is something wrong. Especially if you are a Marshall player.I have been using Marshalls forever and the Stiletto made me rethink my choice. The Stiletto's are killer amps , and in my opinion, the best thing Mesa has to offer right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thefyn Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 It doesnt sound like a Marshall to me. And it sounds a lot different than a DSL IMO (as it should right? ). On that particular clip, it sounds real blurry in the mids to me. But you can tell the grind is there! And now that you've told me that it was bedroom volume, it makes sense. I bet those mids clear up pretty good at band volumes eh? It is a clip from a 1x12 made from a car subwoofer box, locked in my clothes closet, at TV levels. Apartments are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PlayboyChris Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 It doesnt sound like a Marshall to me. And it sounds a lot different than a DSL IMO (as it should right? ). On that particular clip, it sounds real blurry in the mids to me. But you can tell the grind is there! And now that you've told me that it was bedroom volume, it makes sense. I bet those mids clear up pretty good at band volumes eh? Yep. Pretty much my exact thoughts. It's an excellent tone, just not Marshally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 It is a clip from a 1x12 made from a car subwoofer box, locked in my clothes closet, at TV levels. Apartments are great. so the plot thickens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thefyn Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 so the plot thickens! I am getting an ATA road case for my 2x12's, which I am going to slide my1x12 in, put a mic in, close the box AND place it in the closet. And I am going to crank it and see what happens. Anything to avoid buying a power soak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hua and a tele Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 I love my series one stiletto and find it much more versatile then a DSL I had for a short time. I especially like the clean channel on the stiletto. For the project I;m doing now, I leave the clean on fat clean and overdrive it with a clean boost and a bad monkey sounds badass to my ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 I bet those mids clear up pretty good at band volumes eh? Yeah they do. Stiletto soloing live clip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Polaris20 Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 I had a thread here asking for alternatives to a Mesa Stilleto for my rhythm guitarist but it aint here any more! We all know Mesas dont cut it live and Marshalls are the amp of choice for the live player; but my rhytm guitarist has gone against me and got a Stiletto. And the {censored}tard hates it aahhahh!!! It is the best Boogie amp I have played but it still aint gonna cut it live. How much tweaking time should we give it before we sell it and get a pair of DSL100s? That's probably because the {censored}tard doesn't know how to dial them in.....because once you do, they definitely sound better than DSL's, provided you've got a series II on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 For the record I dont think either amp is neccessarily better. They sound completely different... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Polaris20 Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 For the record I dont think either amp is neccessarily better. They sound completely different... I agree, but making it sound like the Stiletto is a piece of {censored} isn't exactly true either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 I agree, but making it sound like the Stiletto is a piece of {censored} isn't exactly true either. The thread starter is either a jackass or a troll. Im confused why we're actually taking it seriously in the first place! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 The thread starter is either a jackass or a troll. Im confused why we're actually taking it seriously in the first place! Maybe a little bit of both. My Stiletto Ace has a "Marshall-Inspired" type of tone -- It's not authentic Marshall. The poster's original argument that a "Mesa", specifically the Stiletto, not being able to hang in a live situation is complete and utter bull{censored}. I go between using my Tremoverb head and my Stiletto Ace in the hard rock band I play in, the other guitar player uses a TSL,...very loud drummer and we're just loud in general. My Ace has no problem what so ever hanging in and cutting through. DSL, TSL, Stiletto, etc -- they can all be dialed in to "cut through" in a live situation. Only someone that doesn't know what the {censored} they're doing would have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chudanez Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 Stiletto just didn't cut it for me. Didn't have the same balls as the Marshall JCM2000s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 Stiletto just didn't cut it for me. Didn't have the same balls as the Marshall JCM2000s Well,...I think the term "balls" in this context is subjective like "good tone" is subjective. I owned a DSL for awhile,..even gigged it a few times. I thought it was a very nice sounding amp, but I just prefer the tones I can get out of my Ace better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 Well,...I think the term "balls" in this context is subjective like "good tone" is subjective. I owned a DSL for awhile,..even gigged it a few times. I thought it was a very nice sounding amp, but I just prefer the tones I can get out of my Ace better. Its all about where you prefer your "grind" in the eq spectrum, if y'know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AMSnell Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=417518 Some cool stuff there, nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shred-o-holic Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 BWAHAHAHAHA@thread originator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cibyl Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 Its all about where you prefer your "grind" in the eq spectrum, if y'know what I mean. Absolutley. But like you I like different kinds of "grind" and tones. That's why I have different amps -- and I want more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 Absolutley. But like you I like different kinds of "grind" and tones. That's why I have different amps -- and I want more. That's why the only answer is to run both amps (Stiletto & DSL) thru seperate cabs & midi cotrol them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrisman926 Posted February 21, 2007 Members Share Posted February 21, 2007 Some cool stuff there, nice! Why Thankye very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rogue_cashew Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 hmmm... the only real solution is to kill your bandmate... do what you need to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Phishmonkey Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 it's gonna be hilarious when Marshall reissue the DSL...sounds funny now but didn't they reissue the JCM900 last year? That might be the {censored}tiest tube marshall ever:lol: LOL, my friends dad rented us JCM900's for a gig and thought it w as a great idea cause they were Marshalls. Man, those were worse than the backup SS crates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MrSandMan Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=417518 Dude, you guys sound tight as hell. Good Job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yngwiehendrix Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 Id say the JTM60, Marshall Artist, and the Club and Country are all worse than the JCM 900... Actually the Club and Country is rather popular due to Alex Lifeson, who used it on Moving Pictures, Exit Stage Left, Signals, and Grace Under Pressure, so it's resale value is quite up there, despite the fact it sounds nothing like a Marshall. The Artist is quite popular because it can be very easily modded into a conventional superlead, and last but not least....the JTM60......... yeah, I agree with you there, its crap:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members koobler Posted February 24, 2007 Members Share Posted February 24, 2007 eh. Mesa anything is weak. takes a whole lot of tweaking to dial in 'that' sound, but it's still not quite as natural as any good Marshall in my book. then again, a huge amount of modern Marshall stuff is garbage too.what happened to cranking up a nice, old single channel amp and using a boost when entirely necessary? that's where the balls are, unless you're in it for pristine note definition. ironically enough, I will argue that the JCM 900 does have it's place. the early 90's ones work incredible with a humbucking Strat for pumping out some real punk rock tunes. for anything else, yeah, I'll agree, they're pretty worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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