Charli Daniels speaks out

[Paul J. Edwards]

He should take the advice somebody gave to the Dixie Chicks and shut up and sing. I'm sick of this trend of celebrities thinking that they have something meaningful to add to political, social, and economic issues simply by virtue of their fame. No formal education, no experience with anything other than the bottom of a bottle and the front side of a stage. If you'll remember correctly, it was Charlie Daniels that vehemently defended Bush's Iraq policy in 2003, and we all know how well that turned out. If he wants to effect change in the political process, perhaps he should run for public office, or he could just shut up. That would be fine, too.

 

 

Hey Silverface.

 

I do hate when people think that if you are a popular artist or actor you give up your right to speak your mind.

 

{censored} that we all have the right to free speech and I also have the right to say that Charlie Daniels can go {censored} himself.

[Gary Cohn]

 

also, i'd like to point something out. why aren't we raising hell about canadians? do they not illegally enter the US? is it that they speak english and look american? or do they just not get jobs that americans need? i guess what i'm getting at is that the southern border isnt' the only border we should keep our eyes on.

 

 

 

Theyre not buying illegal cars, and killing people then boning out leaving people for dead. theyre also probably not on welfare, or robbing/killing, etc. Im not a racist, but the class of the canadians vs. the mexicans isnt even close.

 

Plus, the canadians arent running through streets of l.a. having big gay mexican parades. and they know theyre place. these illegal mexicans swear they get the same rights, and treatment as citizens. and all i gotta say, is {censored} that.

 

People from areas heavily effected by the illegal mexicans will know what im talking about.

 

 

like above me, CT, not as bad as socal, so your opinions isnt gonna be anything like the rest of us.

 

 

 

/thread.

[Paul J. Edwards]

Theyre not buying illegal cars, and killing people then boning out leaving people for dead. theyre also probably not on welfare, or robbing/killing, etc. Im not a racist, but the class of the canadians vs. the mexicans isnt even close. Plus, the canadians arent running through streets of l.a. having big gay mexican parades. and they know theyre place. these illegal mexicans swear they get the same rights, and treatment as citizens. and all i gotta say, is {censored} that. People from areas heavily effected by the illegal mexicans will know what im talking about. like above me, CT, not as bad as socal, so your opinions isnt gonna be anything like the rest of us. /thread.

 

 

 

You are as dumb as a rock.

[knucklefux]

ask the half of Hawaii that wants to succeed from the damn Union! If you are dumb

 

 

how about, if you are dumb you don't know the difference between succeed and secede. please don't attempt to undermine another individual's intelligence when your vocabulary is obviously this lacking.

 

i have no particular reverence or respect for the messenger, but i do feel an urgency fro the message. he mistakenly focused on the southern border, because that's where the majority of the illegal immigrants are coming from. teh fact that you can sit there and discredit what he is saying because he's a "racist redneck" is no better than him saying "i hate jews". it's the same thing, so by saying what you say, you make yourself just like him. if you want to disagree with a position, how about trying to find a reason besides "he's just a redneck, he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about".

 

so, how about this. all you people who fundamentally disagree with what CD said should tell us why illegal immigrants are good for the country, and why we should let them stay.

[Zachman]

 

What part of the message's content? Cuz I thought I addressed exactly what that content was. You can't separate the message from the agenda, the message IS the agenda - there is no real content or discussion in the piece... it is rambling hatespeech dressed up in "now, I don't know much, I'm just a ole country boy with no book larnin like them fancy liberals up in Jew York City..." So do you agree with the rampant racism or the runaway jingoism? The "America is a Christian Nation" part or the " them wetbacks need to learn how to speak Amurican!" part? Or just some unnamed uneasiness with foreigners that really doesn't have an agenda or a message, but just has a problem with people that aren't exactly like you? Ask the Cherokee and the Sioux how they feel about "illegal immigrants" - {censored}, ask the half of Hawaii that wants to succeed from the damn Union! If you are dumb enough to adopt this as a fair expression of your idea of what the real issues in Immigration Reform are, then you are in need of some serious edumacation, my friend.

 

 

 

Dude, I am American Indian (Seminole), Mexican, Puerto Rican, Portugese and a few others.

 

As far as your spin goes, I understand it, I just don't buy it. Illegal is illegal not matter how you slice it, no matter what ethnic origin. I don't see it as racial rather 'national'.

 

All this {censored}ing politically correct speech is making discussing anything ridiculous. Try crossing into another country in europe without your passport, you think they'll give a crap, you better believe it. Even Mexico treats their South American illegals like they need to follow procedures. Get Real. You can't really believe that focusing on the Mexican border is only dealing w/ Mexican illegals coming into this country can you? Lots of people from lots of other countries can and do enter from that location, so pull your head out of your ass, and open your eyes, before talking {censored}.

 

We have a major problem with border security and race isn't the problem, security is.

[Gary Cohn]

You are as dumb as a rock.

 

 

 

Im dumb as a rock eh? how about last summer. fresno, california. highway 168. 2 illegal mexicans street racing (in illegal cars). They hit the back of a car that has a mother and her infant child. Car rolls off the side of the hill. mother and infant die. Mexicans leave the cars, take off. later apprehended at the local hospital and arrested.

 

Or how about vista california. Hit and run, by an illegal mexican. killing one of my friends brothers. Same deal, mexican bails, leaves the car. Later apprehended.

 

 

But what do i know. im sure people in CT have an idea about the border problems we face in california and texas.

[crisis]

I didn't know Gibson made Ukelales.................... Badogbadogbadog:deadhorse:

Must be that high so he dont scratch it on his idiot belt.

[telephant]

I want to kick Charlie Daniels in the nuts. Dont tell me if i had a video ofr me kicking Charlie Daniels in the nuts as hard as I could you guys wouldnt laugh your asses off.

[Zachman]

Im dumb as a rock eh? how about last summer. fresno, california. highway 168. 2 illegal mexicans street racing (in illegal cars). They hit the back of a car that has a mother and her infant child. Car rolls off the side of the hill. mother and infant die. Mexicans leave the cars, take off. later apprehended at the local hospital and arrested. Or how about vista california. Hit and run, by an illegal mexican. killing one of my friends brothers. Same deal, mexican bails, leaves the car. Later apprehended. But what do i know. im sure people in CT have an idea about the border problems we face in california and texas.

 

EXACTLY!!! Though they could've been Honduran, Equadorian, Egyptian, Brazilian etc... coming through the Mexican open border into the USA. It isn't racial, it's a NATIONAL issue.

[Gary Cohn]

EXACTLY!!! Though they could've been Honduran, Equadorian, Egyptian, Brazilian etc... coming through the Mexican open border into the USA. It isn't racial, it's a NATIONAL issue.

Well yeah, it coulda been anyone. but the majority of this type of behavior is from the latino/a culture. Just saying.

[Zachman]

Well yeah, it coulda been anyone. but the majority of this type of behavior is from the latino/a culture. Just saying.

 

 

Agreed, i was just being proactive so that the spin Dr.'s here wouldn't get side tracked from the point that they refuse to acknowledge.

[eor]

you guys suck at thinking

love,
eor

[Zachman]

you guys suck at thinking love, eor

:blah: :blah:

[Gary Cohn]

Agreed, i was just being proactive so that the spin Dr.'s here wouldn't get side tracked from the point that they refuse to acknowledge.

 

 

 

Like i said earlier. these guys will never understand the daily life with these guys around in huge groups, like we have to in the texas/california area. since were right here. Its like trying to tell what a dudes setting on an amp is through a sound clip. you gotte be here, and SEE it, not just hear/or read about it.

[Zachman]

 

Like i said earlier. these guys will never understand the daily life with these guys around in huge groups, like we have to in the texas/california area. since were right here. Its like trying to tell what a dudes setting on an amp is through a sound clip. you gotte be here, and SEE it, not just hear/or read about it.

 

 

you are correct, sir. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! The idea of an illegal having rights in this country is absurd. of course i am not speaking of human rights but constitutional rights.

[Gary Cohn]

you are correct, sir. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!! The idea of an illegal having rights in this country is absurd. of course i am not speaking of human rights but constitutional rights.

 

 

 

id say its a lost cause arguing with these guys here. its like arguing religion, or anything else retarded. oh well.

[NuSkoolTone]

Maybe not all his beliefs, but I agree with this particular statement CD made.

Anyone who doesn't see this stuff as a problem needs to take their head out of the sand. The Mexicans and those from Central America are the most prevalent and visible example though it's not just them. The fact that they (Illegals) get all the benefits of living here and don't pay taxes is BS.

As far as the whole racist bit goes, I'll admit it and just say it: NO I do NOT want the demographic of the country to change. At least not at the present rate which is largely fueled by illegal immigration. Half the shows my 3 year old watches incorporate spanish in some form. NOT German, French, African, Dutch, Japanese, Chinese, Russian, or Italian... SPANISH!

Everyone that has a problem with references to a Christian God in our Government obviously isn't Christian. Otherwise what's the big deal? It USED to be something that united us. Now every freak from whatever country/religion can nitpick and raise hell over every stupid thing they can think of and THAT divides us. This country is losing focus and falling apart IMO.

This country WAS founded by Christians (this is FACT!), so there are roots of that in the constitution and other founding documents. So why is this stuff all a SURPRISE to those that come here? If it offends you, don't move here. I'm sure that sounds "Ignorant" to all the bleeding hearts, but that's the truth. Take all references to god out of everything, make everything Bi-lingual because obviously the spoken language (by the OVERWHELMING majority) isn't worth learning since all these pussys will bend over for them. Well {censored} why not re-write the constitution, bill of rights, while you're at it. it's just a piece of paper written by racist christians right?

[Zachman]

 

id say its a lost cause arguing with these guys here. its like arguing religion, or anything else retarded. oh well.

 

 

I like Ralph's sig:

 

Never argue with an idiot, first they bring you down to their level, then they beat you with experience. It is a lost cause arguing with some of these morons

[Stratotone]

This is interesting... from 2004 no less.

Illegal Immigration Costs California 10.5 Billion Annually
From Robert Longley
State's "cheap labor" costs average household $1,183 a year
Dateline: December, 2004
In hosting America's largest population of illegal immigrants, California bears a huge cost to provide basic human services for this fast growing, low-income segment of its population. A new study from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) examines the costs of education, health care and incarceration of illegal aliens, and concludes that the costs to Californians is $10.5 billion per year.

Among the key finding of the report are that the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.

"California's addiction to 'cheap' illegal alien labor is bankrupting the state and posing enormous burdens on the state's shrinking middle class tax base," stated Dan Stein, President of FAIR.

"Most Californians, who have seen their taxes increase while public services deteriorate, already know the impact that mass illegal immigration is having on their communities, but even they may be shocked when they learn just how much of a drain illegal immigration has become."
The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Californians focuses on three specific program areas because those were the costs examined by researchers from the Urban Institute in 1994. Looking at the costs of education, health care and incarceration for illegal aliens in 1994, the Urban Institute estimated that California was subsidizing illegal immigrants to the tune of about $1.1 billion. The enormous rise in the costs of illegal immigrants over the intervening ten years is due to the rapid growth in illegal residents. It is reasonable to expect those costs to continue to soar if action is not taken to turn the tide.

"Nineteen ninety-four was the same year that California voters rebelled and overwhelmingly passed Proposition 187, which sought to limit liability for mass illegal immigration. Since then, state and local governments have blatantly ignored the wishes of the voters and continued to shell out publicly financed benefits on illegal aliens," said Stein. "Predictably, the costs of illegal immigration have grown geometrically, while the state has spiraled into a fiscal crisis that has brought it near bankruptcy.

"Nothing could more starkly illustrate the very high costs of

[Skoora]

id say its a lost cause arguing with these guys here. its like arguing religion, or anything else retarded. oh well.

I would consider myself Liberal or maybe socialist (haven't really figured it out yet. Not sure I care for being labeled anything actually except for maybe spawn of Satan ) and actually agree with the both of you. I used to live in San Diego and now live closer to the Northern border. For others to use the Canadian border as an example compared to the mexican border is purely laughable. Unless you want some killer weed of course

We need to get away from polarizing reactions based on idealogies and just look around at the reality that surrounds us. There is no right or left or libertarian when a gun's in your face. There's no party affiliation when the school in your neighbourhood closes due to lack of funding or you can't afford to go to a doctor yadda yadda blah blah.

The negative impact on social services and public projects by illegals (of any origin) is a reality of numbers. How do you think Govt's budget for these services. Through census readings and other forms of recognizing population across economic demographics etc. Is an illegal going to participate in anything that tells us their number or existence if they can help it? No. But will they use those services? Yes.

I'm just so tired of political correctness and even though I believe myself to be a live and let live kind of guy there are realities to economic and social structures across and within borders that can't be ignored. To the people who thought mentioning a gang like MS13 was racist, wake the hell up. It's the truth. The vast majority of cocain and heroin that enters the U.S. is across the Mexican border. The amount of gang and criminal activity on that border is ridiculous. Obviously a lot of money is changing hands to help maintain this situation.

Just for a moment take of your warm and fuzzy slippers and remember, for good or bad we are a nation of laws and to pardon such a wide transgression of our laws is the slippery slope. I had to work hard and go through a lot to become a permanent resident. But I did it and have been here legally for 17 years. I wouldn't have wanted it any other way.

Also to mention Canada is a joke as that is to compare Canada economically and socially with Mexico and the imbalance in that analysis is astronomical. If we did more to actually enable mexico to stop being a thirld world country millions of illegals wouldn't want/need to come here.

There's so many angles to it and if we jump immediately to political or social sensitivities in debate we just short change any real chance for actual progress. Grow a thicker skin while also learning to listen....and yes this applies to me too.

P.S Food for thought. Our international situation deteriates (even more ) and a real threat is looming to our national security. Would you rather have fences and more guards across the border or reactionary detention camps inside our borders that round up legal and illegal alike through profiling. I know what I would rather have.

[Gary Cohn]

I would consider myself Liberal or maybe socialist (haven't really figured it out yet. Not sure I care for being labeled anything actually except for maybe spawn of Satan ) and actually agree with the both of you. I used to live in San Diego and now live closer to the Northern border. For others to use the Canadian border as an example compared to the mexican border is purely laughable. Unless you want some killer weed of course We need to get away from polarizing reactions based on idealogies and just look around at the reality that surrounds us. There is no right or left or libertarian when a gun's in your face. There's no party affiliation when the school in your neighbourhood closes due to lack of funding or you can't afford to go to a doctor yadda yadda blah blah. The negative impact on social services and public projects by illegals (of any origin) is a reality of numbers. How do you think Govt's budget for these services. Through census readings and other forms of recognizing population across economic demographics etc. Is an illegal going to participate in anything that tells us their number or existence if they can help it? No. But will they use those services? Yes. I'm just so tired of political correctness and even though I believe myself to be a live and let live kind of guy there are realities to economic and social structures across and within borders that can't be ignored. To the people who thought mentioning a gang like MS13 was racist, wake the hell up. It's the truth. The vast majority of cocain and heroin that enters the U.S. is across the Mexican border. The amount of gang and criminal activity on that border is ridiculous. Obviously a lot of money is changing hands to help maintain this situation. Just for a moment take of your warm and fuzzy slippers and remember, for good or bad we are a nation of laws and to pardon such a wide transgression of our laws is the slippery slope. I had to work hard and go through a lot to become a permanent resident. But I did it and have been here legally for 17 years. I wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Also to mention Canada is a joke as that is to compare Canada economically and socially with Mexico and the imbalance in that analysis is astronomical. If we did more to actually enable mexico to stop being a thirld world country millions of illegals wouldn't want/need to come here. There's so many angles to it and if we jump immediately to political or social sensitivities in debate we just short change any real chance for actual progress. Grow a thicker skin while also learning to listen....and yes this applies to me too. P.S Food for thought. Our international situation deteriates (even more ) and a real threat is looming to our national security. Would you rather have fences and more guards across the border or reactionary detention camps inside our borders that round up legal and illegal alike through profiling. I know what I would rather have.

I used to live in that area as well.

[presa_tito]

Based solely on the picture of the guy, I can't take him seriously.

[Gary Cohn]

Based solely on the picture of the guy, I can't take him seriously.

 

 

 

 

If you listen to a lot of C.D. music, he talks about crooked politicians.

[Paraclete]

"There is an incredible amount of intricately woven issues beyond simply saying "OMG close the borders!!11!!1!!!" I agree that the porous nature of the Mexico-American border lends itself to the possibility of major security issues, but that's not the fault of the people coming here looking for money to feed their families, it's the fault of a broken political system in Washington. If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs: the lawmakers and law enforcers."

Genius,did u even bother to read the thing? He was slamming D.C. like crazy. He does place the blame with them.

[Gary Cohn]

"There is an incredible amount of intricately woven issues beyond simply saying "OMG close the borders!!11!!1!!!" I agree that the porous nature of the Mexico-American border lends itself to the possibility of major security issues, but that's not the fault of the people coming here looking for money to feed their families, it's the fault of a broken political system in Washington. If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs: the lawmakers and law enforcers." Genius,did u even bother to read the thing? He was slamming D.C. like crazy. He does place the blame with them.

 

 

you ever live in palmdale by a chance?