Members The Audacity Works Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 Those guys are all endorsed by Roland. They get a 201 for free, get some cash to show up with one every now and then to make people think they actually use them. They might even use them overy once in a while. But do you really think that JMJ is impressed with this toy? Look at all the stuff he has used over the years. Have you seen footage of his studio? Also, the microkorg has been used by a lot more pro artists than the 201 has. What's the appeal of the MicroKorg? Is it its programmability? Nope. Its massive, textured, dynamic sound? Hell no. The MicroKorg is tiny, weighs almost nothing, is affordable, has a (meh-sounding) vocoder, and it's very easy to select genre-specific patches. It's a great "first" synth. Or something to place on top of another synth. Its appeal is its form factor, not its features or sound. But I guess "they're a bunch of clueless amateurs".Of course not, but I'm sure Korg gave MicroKorgs away as well. All the big MI companies take advantage of endorsees. Dudes like Jordan Rudess and BT (especially BT) just whore themselves out. Of course, I would too if I were them, so that's not a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundxplorer Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 Why do people take synth comments so personally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 Why do people take synth comments so personally? This. It's all a matter of personal taste in the end, isn't it? If a lot of people hate the sound of the SH-201, that's better for me, I still think it's capable of very useful sounds, it's cheap and its sound won't be as ubiquitous as the JP-8000 was, for example. Or like a Virus has been in the last few years... To me, what made me get the concept Roland was going for with the 201 oscillators and filter, was listening to the audio demos on their recent "additional patches" page. That's where I saw that they were trying to model a more aggressive analog type of sound, a bit more raw (70s) and less refined/smooth (which would be the 80s analog sounds, generically speaking). Since the Fusion does refined/smooth well, the 201 is a good addition. And it was very cheap. Edit: this is all IMHO, and it does make more smooth/lush sounds, though not quite as well as some other VAs, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 Zoink, I think you are missing the bigger picture. Sure Korg came out with a VA expansion for there romplers but, Roland has released Vari-phrase, V-Drums, V-Synths, more Guitar Synths, V-Accordians, MV-8000s and many other cool products in the last 10 years. If anybody has been lacking it's Yamaha. BTW. I also has a huge selection of Roland and well as Korg stuff. There IS a bigger picture that I was specifically and consciously avoiding in this conversation. What you say is true. Roland does in fact have a greater diversity of product offerings overall. My comments were specific to workstations, drum machines/grooveboxes, and VAs produced by both companies over the past ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 Zoink, I think you are missing the bigger picture. Sure Korg came out with a VA expansion for there romplers but, Roland has released Vari-phrase, V-Drums, V-Synths, more Guitar Synths, V-Accordians, MV-8000s and many other cool products in the last 10 years. If anybody has been lacking it's Yamaha. BTW. I also has a huge selection of Roland and well as Korg stuff. AND teh new V-Tamborine at Musikmesse 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zoink Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 And there are literally dozens of features in the Fantom-G that never existed in a keyboard workstation before (some big, some akin to a tube with an orange LED behind it).The V-Synth GT.As an ARX board for the G? Yeah, they totally should do that, and there's a thread over on Fantomized where that (and a drawbar emulation board) are at the top of an ARX request list. Unfortunately, I think Roland sees this "SuperNatural" thing as an emulation of acoustic instruments, not a be-all, end-all programming platform for cool new stuff. Between you and me, I suspect it's little more than a testing ground for new technology. It wouldn't surprise me if the next Fantom is all SuperNatural-based.Yeah, definitely. Me too.I appreciate the SH-201 for what it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chando Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 I would love there to be a new SH-201. Something a bit more heavy and doesn't have an AC adaptor. When I worked at Sam Ash for a couple months. I always played the SH-201 and loved it.... liked it more than the Prophet 08 right above it. that job sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Audacity Works Posted March 22, 2010 Members Share Posted March 22, 2010 Originally Posted by zoink My main point regarding the Fantom (again, as an X7 owner) is that what they released during the entire first half of the previous decade was too little too late, in light of what Korg and Yamaha were already doing. That being said, I think the G and X play a nice game of catch-up, though I wish they didn't move so heavily and strictly in the "more megabytes of ROM" direction. The Fantom-G added 120 new features from the X (to date, to my count), many of which aren't found in any other keyboard product, and all of which are more usable than an orange LED behind a tube. 24 dedicated audio tracks that automatically timestretch to match realtime or playback tempo? 128 discrete MIDI tracks? Dedicated parts (and all those extra tracks) for external modules? Dedicated effects for every internal part? Seamless Live Set transitions of all effects and all parts? But it would be nice to see a flagship VA by Roland deserving of the iconic status of the Virus or Q, but with a Jupiter-revival kind of sound without the limitations and quirks of the JP8080. Roland's weird like that. They seem to focus on two demographics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members morten'J Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Roland GAIA SH 01 is true they still use old names also,only missing texthttp://www.sonicstate.com/news/synths/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k2500x Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Like I was saying. All these web sites posted the 'rumors' of new synths in the past and we'd find out a week ahead of time. Now Roland probably just hands them the press release a week ahead of time and has them sign NDAs not to release one shred of info until March 24th so we don't end up finding out until it's posted. Crazy theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members morten'J Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes same with Korg ,We now know that it's name is GAIA SH 01 but only about 10 hours we might know more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 This is flying around the web too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundxplorer Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Originally Posted by Bernard This is flying around the web too: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 I want to see the GAIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Bernard Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Originally Posted by soundxplorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members astraeus000 Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 GAIA ??? I thought it was called the Roland GRAND-MA ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LostTsunami Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Its so a fake ... i mean where's the Dbeam and Vlink Button .... Originally Posted by soundxplorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members morten'J Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Yes it white the is picture up on facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...00000439338766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Originally Posted by morten'J Yes it white the is picture up on facebook http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...00000439338766 "This content is currently unavailable" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members morten'J Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 You need to be friends with him.It looks like cross between JP 8000 and SH 201 in white and only 3 octaves.I will not post the picture here ,because I also friends with Rolandguys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 This man will be pleased: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members k2500x Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Is this it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members girevik Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Originally Posted by Bernard This man will be pleased: Ah, so you're really Marcus Brown. It's an honor to have you here, sir. Even if you are such a Roland fanboi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bernard Posted March 23, 2010 Members Share Posted March 23, 2010 Originally Posted by k2500x Is this it? By some stroke of fortune the hot drink was not in my hand when I saw your post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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