Members ke2 Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Maybe he doesn`t give a shit? Rented amp, original preamp tubes, have 1500 different at home, put in one that worked etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 he was just bullshitting me. there are know good tubes anymore? wtf? what a lame response. oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Maybe he doesn`t give a shit? Rented amp, original preamp tubes, have 1500 different at home, put in one that worked etc..... This is what I was thinking. Im guessing he just doesnt care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Of all the things I could have asked or conversed about..... "dude...your preamp tubes...what kind?' ....Probably would have never ocurred to me. You're talking to a legend. A master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Of all the things I could have asked or conversed about..... "dude...your preamp tubes...what kind?' ....Probably would have never ocurred to me. You're talking to a legend. A master. Mr Holdsworth doesnt like him though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Atavachrwnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Atavachrwnt lulz synthaxe ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members .homewrecker. Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 why did you care? He had no musicality...right?I'm sure he doesn't give a {censored} about tubes and probably thought it was a wanker conversation. If you're the type that given the chance to talk to Holdsworth, wasted it by trying to talk tube shop, then I highly doubt that you have the ability to even comprehend Holdsworth's "musicality". Haha great, +1 I saw Holdsworth a few weeks back had a short chat with him and for being the amazing, highly respected guitarist he is he's is completely down to earth and really cool to talk to. I agree his music isn't for most, but to say it's unmusical shows something on your part, there is tons of melody going on in Holdsworth's music you just have to know how to listen for it:idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Haha great, +1I saw Holdsworth a few weeks back had a short chat with him and for being the amazing, highly respected guitarist he is he's is completely down to earth and really cool to talk to. I agree his music isn't for most, but to say it's unmusical shows something on your part, there is tons of melody going on in Holdsworth's music you just have to know how to listen for it:idea: theres also musicality in the wind and the trees and the bumblebees...just need to know what to listen for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Of all the things I could have asked or conversed about....."dude...your preamp tubes...what kind?'....Probably would have never ocurred to me. You're talking to a legend. A master. im not gonna put him on a pedestal. talked to him just like any people would have a conversation. pushed him a little on what he knew. boo hoo. thats what i was interested in and thats all i wanted to ask him about. just thought his response was hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 theres also musicality in the wind and the trees and the bumblebees...just need to know what to listen for What fukin tubes do they use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Northstar Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 This guy is from a generation which saw tubes in ALL kinds of electronic equipment and he must have seen some epic equipment failure in his time. He doesn't have a worship attitude towards tubes. Most of us, on the other hand, love tubes because they give us a sound which was pioneered by our favorite players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bmast160 Posted May 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 And luckily for them your not likely to ask them what fukin tubes they use probably could have had a better conversation if i did. ill try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Exocaster Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 What fukin tubes do they use They swear by JJs to tame the buzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members .homewrecker. Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 When he says bumblebees he's talking about 5150's right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oops-A-Paisley Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 probably could have had a better conversation if i did. ill try it. there you go , I've fixed your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 17 Tubes Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 im not gonna put him on a pedestal. talked to him just like any people would have a conversation. pushed him a little on what he knew. boo hoo. thats what i was interested in and thats all i wanted to ask him about. just thought his response was hilarious I didn't say you had to. And it's cool you wanted to ask him about preamp tubes...I guess. I guess it's no worse than "what mode was that?" You do know he used Pearce for ever, right? No tubes. And his repsonse was hilarious. Gave you something to remember him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freddy Flute Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Depends on how you approach him too. What kind of questions you through at him. Remember he's heard them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freddy Flute Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 I didn't say you had to. And it's cool you wanted to ask him about preamp tubes...I guess. I guess it's no worse than "what mode was that?"You do know he used Pearce for ever, right? No tubes. And his repsonse was hilarious. Gave you something to remember him by. He used Yamaha DG's for at least ten years which are modlers. Although I think he still put them through tube power then through his harness then wherever. Another thing. He doesn't use the preamp sections on the H&K's. He uses 5 Yamaha Magic stomps. He's only using the power sections on those amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Northstar Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 He's only using the power sections on those amps. I thought I was the only one doing that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Dog Boy Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 Holdsworth probably doesn't care much about tubes anymore since his tone is derived almost entirely from the DeLap guitar, Yamaha Magicstomps and assorted booster pedals that he uses. The H&K amps he uses,(Fender Twins, Carvin Power amp with assorted cabinets on occasion etc.) are used only for volume (i.e.power amplification). It seems that no matter what kind of tubes his amps employ on any particular night, he always has that awesome tone that only his prodigious technique and incredibly advanced musical sensibilities can provide. So, given the fact that pre-amp tubes don't even come into the picture at all, he couldn't care less about the type of 12ax7s present in the amp, and, regardless of whether the power section uses EL34s, 6L6s or 5881s etc. the rest of his rig has far more to do with his sound. Before you go slagging off one of the best musicians out there....get your facts straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NoodleFace Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 You had your shot to ask a great guitar player anything.... ...You asked him about 12ax7's. You're lucky the sky didn't part and the response was a bolt of lightning from the heavens above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freddy Flute Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 His tone doesnt do anything for me, but neither does his playing, and his tone has a lot to do with the way he plays IMO. That's because you're deaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members telephant Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 That's because you're deaf Nah I just dont dig his style. He's an incredible guitar player though. But I love it when someone takes a compliment like that personally. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freddy Flute Posted May 19, 2008 Members Share Posted May 19, 2008 I thought I was the only one doing that... I mean he's only using the power section on those HK amplifiers which have preamp sections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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