Members david k Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 Seems like whenever someone is advertising or describing an amp, they always throw in there that the amp is ....above all else, pedal friendly. So, what gives?:poke: I want to know an amp that is not pedal friendly dammit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brick Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 amps with sucky loops when I think of pedal friendly amps, I think of olde fenders and vox's. Singla channel amps with good cleans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ENdtime Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 a lot a hi-gainers arent really pedal friendly. but that's mostly referring to FX run in front of the amp. FX loops generally work pretty well for FX obvioulsy. Personally I don't think 5150's take pedals to well.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chrispsullivan Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 the ac30cc2 is pretty damn picky about what kind of dirt/boost/fuzz pedals you stick up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 The Kerry King JCM800, but that already has a built in Metal Zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lingoguitar Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 The Kerry King JCM800, but that already has a built in Metal Zone. HAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Norton666 Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 Ive always found Orange amps to be OD/Dirt pedal haters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kinggeoff Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 UUUUSUALLY when people say "takes pedals well" they're talking about pedals in front as for loops, they vary in quality. Best loop ive heard (BY FARRRR) is the one you find in VHTs..absolutely PRISTINE. (and I run a lot of Fx..synth etc without having a full range system, so a REALLY GOOD loop is very important to me) Next IMO is ENGL...they have some nice transparent loops the worst I've tried: 5150...good lord.. noisiest, {censored}tiest thing ever. Love the metal tones..but the loop was a complete mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 The Kerry King JCM800, but that already has a built in Metal Zone. Hey now... I know you're just joking but that amp is a really decent version of the 800. Nobody I know who's heard one walked away saying "that sucks". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 the worst I've tried: 5150...good lord.. noisiest, {censored}tiest thing ever.Love the metal tones..but the loop was a complete mess I had a JerryP modded 5150 that was tits, but when I put a G-Major in the loop, it literally cut the balls of that amp, sauteed them in olive oil, garlic and rosemary, and served them to me on a hoagie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 Hey now... I know you're just joking but that amp is a really decent version of the 800. Nobody I know who's heard one walked away saying "that sucks". yes, I've heard they are actually decent amps. Kerry King still sucks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members .homewrecker. Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 JCM800KK Turkeys not included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 JCM800KK Turkeys not included The Soul of Giblets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scott K Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 BadCat Black Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheEsupremacy Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 the worst I've tried: 5150...good lord.. noisiest, {censored}tiest thing ever. Love the metal tones..but the loop was a complete mess Even though I've never run anything in the loop of my 6505 without an ISP Decimator on I think it sounds good. Maybe the ISP makes a big difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 Even though I've never run anything in the loop of my 6505 without an ISP Decimator on I think it sounds good. Maybe the ISP makes a big difference? possibly...I think I had more issues with the G-major tonesucking then the actual loop of the 5150. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uncle_Milton Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 BadCat Black Cat seriously? wtf? What about the other badcat amps, like the hotcat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gnt1856 Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 A lot of modeling amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 are there any amp builders out there that'd confirm this? i have a sneaking suspicion that it has something to do with impedances-- whereas if you have an amp that's a cathode follower structured preamp, you lose a lotta control over your use of the volume on your guit because the amp wants to see a certain amount of voltage on the input. my mesa's like that.. you kinda have to have it full bore to not lose ALL of your top end. i'm figuring that something that operates in that context can be downright 'pedal unfriendly'.. and i think it's a common high gain strategy to use cathode followers... just a hunch.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr Songwriter Posted October 28, 2008 Members Share Posted October 28, 2008 I would say tube amps, on the whole, tend to be more pedal friendly than SS/Modelling amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Uncle_Milton Posted October 31, 2008 Members Share Posted October 31, 2008 I would say tube amps, on the whole, tend to be more pedal friendly than SS/Modelling amps. there are notable exceptions to that rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members theinTIMidator Posted October 31, 2008 Members Share Posted October 31, 2008 Most modeling amps and Framus Cobra's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesPaulCustom79 Posted November 2, 2008 Members Share Posted November 2, 2008 It's kind of silly to use a Tubescreamer to overdrive a SS power section, but it can be done, it just doesn't sound as good as an overdriven tube amp. Tubescreamer type overdrives are meant to overdrive tubes, dee, dee, deeee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sixtonoize Posted November 2, 2008 Members Share Posted November 2, 2008 are there any amp builders out there that'd confirm this?i have a sneaking suspicion that it has something to do with impedances-- whereas if you have an amp that's a cathode follower structured preamp, you lose a lotta control over your use of the volume on your guit because the amp wants to see a certain amount of voltage on the input. my mesa's like that.. you kinda have to have it full bore to not lose ALL of your top end. i'm figuring that something that operates in that context can be downright 'pedal unfriendly'.. and i think it's a common high gain strategy to use cathode followers...just a hunch.. Probably 95% of the amps out there use a cathode follower somewhere. In Rectos, it drives the tone stack, just like in Marshalls, Soldanos, and VHTs. The 5150, Mesa Mark-series, Fenders, and Splawns (from what I've been told) drive the tone stack from the plate, but still use a cathode follower to drive the FX loop. I don't really think the presence of a CF has much to do whether or not an amp is "pedal friendly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NotDead Posted November 2, 2008 Members Share Posted November 2, 2008 Musicman, 1980's fender champs, amps without an effects loop and with an SS preamp, are VERY pedal-unfriendly. But nothing does worse with an EQ in front of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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