Members Chrisjd Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 What makes a good live tone to you? Show some examples. [YOUTUBE]gaBC6r30TKE[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JesterRace51 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 I'm gonna have to go give it up to In Flames. I hate to post In Flames in every "metal tone" related thread, but every time I've seen them...there tone with the 5150s has been {censored}ing crushing. Extremely clear...chords sound like a gigantic wall of sound that slams you in the face. It's incredible. Let me see if I can find a video that captures what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultrahighgain Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Holy O living {censored} I hate Chimaira, ...and yes I've seen them live and they were even worse. I guess I just can't get into that whole NWOAM style. If you fellas like 'em more power to you all, but it's just a bunch of unmelodic noise and cliche'd posturing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultrahighgain Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 I'm gonna have to go give it up to In Flames. I hate to post In Flames in every "metal tone" related thread, but every time I've seen them...there tone with the 5150s has been {censored}ing crushing. Extremely clear...chords sound like a gigantic wall of sound that slams you in the face. It's incredible. Let me see if I can find a video that captures what I'm talking about. In Flames does sound amazing live. I'd love to see Iced Earth as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members darren0203 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 was that when they were using 5150s or powerballs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members darren0203 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Holy O living {censored} I hate Chimaira, ...and yes I've seen them live and they were even worse.I guess I just can't get into that whole NWOAM style.If you fellas like 'em more power to you all, but it's just a bunch of unmelodic noise and cliche'd posturing to me. chimaira has alot better songs than that and +1 for inflames live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kvk1 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 I'm gonna have to go give it up to In Flames. I hate to post In Flames in every "metal tone" related thread, but every time I've seen them...there tone with the 5150s has been {censored}ing crushing. Extremely clear...chords sound like a gigantic wall of sound that slams you in the face. It's incredible. Let me see if I can find a video that captures what I'm talking about. 6WN5TDFu3fk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danhan1113 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 As far as live tone goes, this does it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ultron Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 Best live tone I've heard recently is Ty Tabor's rig.....Egnater stacks with snax for fx only....simply crushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 [YOUTUBE]RoNitE9xY-0[/YOUTUBE] [YOUTUBE]V4bdFH0f7s0[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unstrung Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 A good live tone to me is one that you can hear. At least in the case of high gain tones, 50% of the time the guitars take a whole lot of effort to make out. I blame A) guitarists that don't dial in their amps effectively and B) amps that are voiced in a manner that just won't cut in a live metal/modern hard rock context. With that said it's high-mid voiced amps that seem to be audible, like the Peavey 6505 and 6505+, Marshalls and their derivatives, Krank (though not as much as the previous two), etc. It's beefy low mid voiced amps like the Recto and certain Engls that turn into mush and fizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guidedbyechoes Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 As far as live tone goes, this does it for me. +1 [YOUTUBE]JVYUDk8HOlw[/YOUTUBE] best live tones I've heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 damn that sounds ridiculously good for a live show...I would have been AMP'ed (no pun intended) if were at that show. Thats the kind of {censored} that gets you jumpin and into the music. Damn good guitar sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Unstrung Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 A good live tone to me is one that you can hear. At least in the case of high gain tones, 50% of the time the guitars take a whole lot of effort to make out. I blame A) guitarists that don't dial in their amps effectively and B) amps that are voiced in a manner that just won't cut in a live metal/modern hard rock context.With that said it's high-mid voiced amps that seem to be audible, like the Peavey 6505 and 6505+, Marshalls and their derivatives, Krank (though not as much as the previous two), etc. It's beefy low mid voiced amps like the Recto and certain Engls that turn into mush and fizz. Oh, and the greatest live tone I've heard was Tony Iommi with Heaven and Hell in 2007. Those Laneys sounded {censored}ing awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members baja85 Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 I've gotta say Gojira. Clear and crushing, articulate and massive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaceU4her Posted November 7, 2009 Members Share Posted November 7, 2009 i never find 5150s too exciting live. maybe if seemingly 50% of the bands i see didnt use them it would be different but i dont know. they cut through good but they are just kind of boring sounding. they record better than they sound live i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoCalMX70 Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 Call me old fashioned... (Skip to about 2:40 for actual music)[YOUTUBE]IU_EdmMYmv8[/YOUTUBE] Video has a weird hiss in it, but James' Diezel VH4 and Kirk's sig Randall sound pretty good to me. Sure gives the bass a lot of room to breathe. Kinda funny about the 5150/II/6505/+. I loved playing through my 6505+ more than anything, but so many bands have THAT sound now that it just gets boring to hear in a live situation. I'd still use one on stage, but I wouldn't want to be the guy in the crowd hearing it, as odd as that sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members somata Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm having a hard time finding good video sound of it, but The Faceless has always sounded killer when I've seen them. Those Vettas run to the FOH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rogueleader Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 Video has a weird hiss in it, but James' Diezel VH4 and Kirk's sig Randall sound pretty good to me. Sure gives the bass a lot of room to breathe.Kinda funny about the 5150/II/6505/+. I loved playing through my 6505+ more than anything, but so many bands have THAT sound now that it just gets boring to hear in a live situation. I'd still use one on stage, but I wouldn't want to be the guy in the crowd hearing it, as odd as that sounds. I'm not sure that sound is kirks randall. Something else might be miced backstage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoCalMX70 Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 I'm not sure that sound is kirks randall. Something else might be miced backstage. Quite possible. I did a quick search and found this: http://www.guitarworld.com/metallicagear That's from 2008 though... I don't think James has changed his setup, but Kirk might be using something else, or has been all along and is just playing nice for Randall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 the live vids and recordings dont show it at all for some reason but metallicas live tone is {censored}ing amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoCalMX70 Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 the live vids and recordings dont show it at all for some reason but metallicas live tone is {censored}ing amazing. I think their new DVD shows it pretty well, probably better than any DVD they've ever released. There's just much less of that natural reverb you get when you're there in the venue. Either way, everytime I've seen them live they've sounded {censored}ing HUGE, with exception going to when I saw them at The Forum years ago... but I blame the {censored}ty venue for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 saw em in anaheim at the pond. {censored}ing AMAZING tone. and it was the st anger tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SoCalMX70 Posted November 8, 2009 Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 saw em in anaheim at the pond. {censored}ing AMAZING tone. and it was the st anger tour. Haha, yeah I was at that one too. I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chrisjd Posted November 8, 2009 Author Members Share Posted November 8, 2009 That sounds really nice and audible. Fantastic band too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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