Members Ryan Turner Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 There seems to be a new version, with tube FX loop, opto-coupling switching, 5 instead of 4x12AX7 and 6L6 instead of 5881. Also seems to have a 100W/50W switch. Costs 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 There seems to be a new version, with tube FX loop, opto-coupling switching, 5 instead of 4x12AX7 and 6L6 instead of 5881. Also seems to have a 100W/50W switch. Costs 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yarbicus Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 That would be the JCA100HRD. I've seen the specs and written the manual but, man, I can not WAIT until I hear FRPC's clips and videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 There seems to be a new version, with tube FX loop, opto-coupling switching, 5 instead of 4x12AX7 and 6L6 instead of 5881. Also seems to have a 100W/50W switch. Costs 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jet city amps Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah I think that my observation of the amp at stage volumes should come with a caveat stating that it loses in terms of clarity and ability to cut in a full band mix **When compared to my Titan or Nitro** It should also be noted that "stage volume" for me is well beyond what most people actually run their amps at. Truth be told, the show that I came to that conclusion at was one of the rare venues that we play that the volume truly reaches those absurd decibel levels. most other places, it's not near as loud and thus wouldn't be much of an issue. Another part of it is what seems to be the voicing of the amp. It's a very thick and smooth voice. It makes recording an absolute joy and lead work effortless. It's a very different voicing than the Titan and nitro. both of them have a much more raw and cutting sound that can get over the top and out of control with the agression if not carefully kept in check. The JCA doesn't have that problem. It's well mannered and creamy all o'er but far from weak or lacking in punch or power. so it's sort of a double edged sword but also consider the price tag of the Titan and Nitro. They're both the very definition of stage dominating brutality and amps that cost twice as much as they do will easily get smoked so throwing the JCA at them and expecting it to cream them at ear damaging volume levels is a bit naive IMO. I'm chomping at the bit though to hear what Mike's Frankensteined JCA with the Onetic OT (and whatever other tweaks he may make) will sound like Especially compared to the new beast that showed up this weekend... It showed up!!! Yo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FastRedPonyCar Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 It showed up!!! Yo! yeah I've been slowly pecking away at a long ass email at work. Folks keep bothering me..with all that work nonsense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jet city amps Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 yeah I've been slowly pecking away at a long ass email at work. Folks keep bothering me..with all that work nonsense... When you have a chance can you please email me with Valve Queen's email? The contact form on her site seems to be kaput at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tubes In a Hat Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah I think that my observation of the amp at stage volumes should come with a caveat stating that it loses in terms of clarity and ability to cut in a full band mix **When compared to my Titan or Nitro** It should also be noted that "stage volume" for me is well beyond what most people actually run their amps at. Truth be told, the show that I came to that conclusion at was one of the rare venues that we play that the volume truly reaches those absurd decibel levels. most other places, it's not near as loud and thus wouldn't be much of an issue. Another part of it is what seems to be the voicing of the amp. It's a very thick and smooth voice. It makes recording an absolute joy and lead work effortless. It's a very different voicing than the Titan and nitro. both of them have a much more raw and cutting sound that can get over the top and out of control with the agression if not carefully kept in check. The JCA doesn't have that problem. It's well mannered and creamy all o'er but far from weak or lacking in punch or power. so it's sort of a double edged sword but also consider the price tag of the Titan and Nitro. They're both the very definition of stage dominating brutality and amps that cost twice as much as they do will easily get smoked so throwing the JCA at them and expecting it to cream them at ear damaging volume levels is a bit naive IMO. I'm chomping at the bit though to hear what Mike's Frankensteined JCA with the Onetic OT (and whatever other tweaks he may make) will sound like Especially compared to the new beast that showed up this weekend... Like I said, I didn't mean to misrepresent you in any way. Having said that, it seems to me like if the JCA100H is to be considered by players among us who COULD save up the extra coin to get something in the price range of the Titan and Splawn... it should be able to hold its own, but that's not to say I'm not interested in the Jet City. So... I'm pretty excited to hear it with upgraded transformers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 Like I said, I didn't mean to misrepresent you in any way. Having said that, it seems to me like if the JCA100H is to be considered by players among us who COULD save up the extra coin to get something in the price range of the Titan and Splawn... it should be able to hold its own, but that's not to say I'm not interested in the Jet City. So... I'm pretty excited to hear it with upgraded transformers. hold its own is an understatement. Although I do not have experience with Titan or Splawn amps, the JCA100H is easily the best amp I've owned in recent times, beating some amps by Marshall, Mesa and Fender. I was using a 2-channel DR before I got the JCA100H and I don't miss it at all. Not to say the DR is a bad amp, but the JCA100H nails the tone I like 100x better. Same with the DSL I had before the DR. I wouldn't trade the JCA100H for any of these amps, unless it was with the purpose of reselling them and buying more JCA100Hs . It's a phenomenal amp. for the tones I like, I don't think there is a better amp under 1k and if you've been reading my posts for the last year, I've tried them ALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 How is the FX loop on the 100? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tubes In a Hat Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 hold its own is an understatement. Although I do not have experience with Titan or Splawn amps, the JCA100H is easily the best amp I've owned in recent times, beating some amps by Marshall, Mesa and Fender. I was using a 2-channel DR before I got the JCA100H and I don't miss it at all. Not to say the DR is a bad amp, but the JCA100H nails the tone I like 100x better. Same with the DSL I had before the DR. I wouldn't trade the JCA100H for any of these amps, unless it was with the purpose of reselling them and buying more JCA100Hs . It's a phenomenal amp. for the tones I like, I don't think there is a better amp under 1k and if you've been reading my posts for the last year, I've tried them ALL I'm itching to plug into one of these things. Believe me, your testimonials are well received I'd like to be able to simplify my rig down to just a few pedals and a solid two-channel amp so I can spend more time playing than thinking about levels and switching, but I suppose for now I'm a guy who needs many channels and lots of features and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 How is the FX loop on the 100? I haven't tried yet. I am enjoying playing straight into the amp so much I've been keeping my rig as simple as possible, but from what I understand, it's optimized for line-level (rack) processors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Turner Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 How is the FX loop on the 100? I find to loop to be a bit dark sounding, but I don't know if that may have something to do with the tube buffering it. I'm using the stock tube for that right now. My Voodoo Lab Analog Chorus (which is a hot pedal volume wise) sounded spectacular through the loop, but my MXR Carbon Copy and Phase 90 sound too warm and a bit muffled in the loop. Of course, the Carbon Copy is a dark sounding delay and Phase 90s usually sound better in front of the amp. Bare in mind, though, I haven't used an effects loop in 3 years, so it may be my adjusting to a loop causing me to hear this. All-in-all, I'm probably not the best judge for the JCA100H effects loop:lol: All I know is I'm not using the loop on my JCA100H and I'm perfectly happy with that. I still love the way it sounds. I'm taking her to her first show this Friday, so we'll see how she stacks up live:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 I find to loop to be a bit dark sounding, but I don't know if that may have something to do with the tube buffering it. I'm using the stock tube for that right now. My Voodoo Lab Analog Chorus (which is a hot pedal volume wise) sounded spectacular through the loop, but my MXR Carbon Copy and Phase 90 sound too warm and a bit muffled in the loop. Of course, the Carbon Copy is a dark sounding delay and Phase 90s usually sound better in front of the amp. Bare in mind, though, I haven't used an effects loop in 3 years, so it may be my adjusting to a loop causing me to hear this. All-in-all, I'm probably not the best judge for the JCA100H effects loop:lol:All I know is I'm not using the loop on my JCA100H and I'm perfectly happy with that. I still love the way it sounds. I'm taking her to her first show this Friday, so we'll see how she stacks up live:cool: Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MattACaster Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 I haven't tried yet. I am enjoying playing straight into the amp so much I've been keeping my rig as simple as possible, but from what I understand, it's optimized for line-level (rack) processors. That works for me. Hopefully I will have a G-System by the time I get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yarbicus Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 All I know is I'm not using the loop on my JCA100H and I'm perfectly happy with that. I still love the way it sounds. I'm taking her to her first show this Friday, so we'll see how she stacks up live:cool: We will be expecting a full post-show report! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Turner Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 We will be expecting a full post-show report! Will do, sir:rawk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members diagrammatiks Posted August 9, 2010 Members Share Posted August 9, 2010 I've played a bunch of hotrods against my slo, and I've played the jca 20 but haven't found a 50 or 100 to play yet. Mike's the man. The DeYoung's that he uses in the SLO make a world of difference. An Avenger with an O'netics SLO clone transformers sounds very different then one with Mercury Magnetics, sounds very different then one with the standard transformers being used now. Is there a point where they can be all dialed in to sound the same? Yes. However, the further you drift away from those places on the eq and volume controls the more pronounced the differences become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danyeo Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 Just to let everyone know, a friend of mine owned an Avenger that was loaded with DeYoung transformer's. Ed Degenaro owned the amp at one point. Not sure if it was a custom model or not. It did rip, we still boosted it with a MIJ Boss SD-1 and it sounded great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 I play with a drummer with a monster kit with a 28" bass drum. Trust me, if this amp did not sound GREAT at really high volumes I would not be using it. My band is really loud and the JCA100 just excels at those volumes. I am not sure about consistency, as I only tried one so far, I'm getting another one tomorrow so I will comment on that. But that alone should say something about the amp right there. . Since this thread was bumped, let me just post an update to this: I have now owned 2 JCA100Hs and 1 JCA50H. The consistency and build quality on these amps is incredible. For the time I've been playing them they have been totally issue-free and extremely consistent from one unit to the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jaeger28 Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 Since this thread was bumped, let me just post an update to this: I have now owned 2 JCA100Hs and 1 JCA50H. The consistency and build quality on these amps is incredible. For the time I've been playing them they have been totally issue-free and extremely consistent from one unit to the other. How would you describe the difference between the two (100 and 50)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarbilly74 Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 How would you describe the difference between the two (100 and 50)? They're the same amp essentially so the difference would be just the power section. The 100w sounds a bit bigger and tighter and needs to be really loud to get power tube distortion. The 50w will distort earlier and have a looser low end. Both amps are loud enough for any live or studio situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pioneerprogress Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 Hooray for the bump! I have an SLO but no experience with the any Jet City stuff. I'd love the A/B them. Sounds like a good reason for another SC mapfest. I'll bring my JCA100! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 Did JCA ever respond after replacing the Output tranny with an Onetics unit? I didn't see an update here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jenksdrummer Posted March 3, 2011 Members Share Posted March 3, 2011 Since the JCA100H / JCA100HDM are basically HR50 in 100w forms, wouldn't it make more sense to put in Mercury trannies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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