Members kanamvar32 Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 What happened to you is {censored}ing terrible. I like heavy music but I am finding it more difficult to go to live performances because of idiots like the ones you dealt with (my experience has been primarily with less violent but probably equally or more drunk people who ruin the concert experience). I think you can still have a mosh pit but that shouldn't interfere with the people who just want to stand there and listen/watch the band.I doubt you'll have any serious issues with this at work. Some guy was about to punch your friend's girlfriend and you stepped in and took it. I can't see how that could make you look bad. Sounds like your lip will heal over time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 man I get closer to turning into patrick bateman everyday with {censored} like this ....seems its getting harder by the year to go out and have a good time in general public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yourguitarhero Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 Hey, they have internet in hell? You should watch the movie Harry Brown.It's about a pensioner who gets revenge on groups of kids who randomly attack people on a housing estate.I'll warn you - the first 30 minutes is horrible, so much sadness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kanamvar32 Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 And why didn't your post end with "so I called the cops and had the dude charged for Assault?" Don't forget battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MadKeithV Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 Theres less and less shows lately because of the risk associated, ny has lost alot of venues for this reason, even in nyc its the same deal places get sued no more show Maybe there's less and less shows lately because people are staying away for fear of getting beat up at shows?:idea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cavemanic Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 I gotta say thou ..I like alot of metal music but I'm very embarrassed by alot of the crowd..... I mean if its a band like cannibal corpse or decapitated chances are you are dealing with IQ's in the negatives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NeloAngelo Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 stories like these make me want to walk out the door and strangle the first person i see. i seriously fantasize about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jnurp Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 holy {censored} Brandon that is {censored}ed up. something similar happened to me 2 years ago at btbam, some scenster kept {censored}ing with me over and over. It started out with a push then a shove then it turned into him basically taking {censored}ing swings at me. I had to literally shoulder roll and move my head like i was boxing to avoid being hit by him like 2 or 3 times. Mind you i was 34 or 35 at the time and this kid couldnt have been more then 19 if that. I kept saying to myself if i punch this kid im going to jail, is it worth it...so after 20 minutes of being stalked by this kid i couldnt take it. He went to swing at my head yet again and i ducked down, dropped to a knee and shanked his liver with my left forearm as hard as i could. He instantly dropped and started yelling in pain. I just ran to the other side of the stage and enjoyed the rest of the show. I was nervous about getting jumped and my adrenaline was thru the roof but i think that little asshole learnt his lesson that night. I dont get why some people get off on hurting other people for no reason. Its so {censored}ed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nitrous2400 Posted September 7, 2010 Author Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 Why should you lose your job because you were a victim of random violence? The ppl I work with won't understand what a show is ...they'll think I was just in a fight club of sort. My lip is purple right now and you can tell it was hit pretty hard Im thinking about just saying I was playing football and took a shot they'll understand that better than i was at a concert when some guy went to deck my friends gf...plus Im not the kind of guy that needs to stroke my ego I'm on phone I gotta get goin so ill ttygl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Cohn Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 Definitely something weird with kids these days. Last show I went to some kid with gym shorts and a backpack rocking a Jew fro was causing problems all over the place. He pretty much did exactly what happened to you, except he actually hit a girl in the face and busted her nose pretty good. Next revolution around the pit I released 230 lbs of unadulterated awesome across his face, kid dropped stiff. His midget boyfriend came out of nowhere to which he was leveled by my friend. If I had to guess, the kids were maybe 15/16, 120 lbs. But I don't discriminate with boys that hit women. Shows {censored}ing suck now a days, I haven't been to one since. Why are people acting so gay? I blame the hardcore kids who don't get {censored} or drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Metalman X Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 IF ONLY yeah this wasn't a venue it was almost like a vfw kinda deal. I think it was the first show there honestly bc I've never even heard of it. there were no bouncers, no security {censored} would have been shut down. LI has like 3 real venues, not bars but actual stages that have shows. Theres less and less shows lately because of the risk associated, ny has lost alot of venues for this reason, even in nyc its the same deal places get sued no more show Dude, it's been going on for awhile AFAIK. I grew up in Long Island. Lived there til I was 23....moved out in 2003. There are VERY few venues there, for sure. And my old bass player had been a vet player in the area, 12 years my senior, who told me how different it was from like '87 to 2000. So many places closed down due to BS like you're describing, and also, sadly, lack of peoples interest in live music (unless your top 40 cover act, which is also being replaced by DJ's). Remember a place called Dr. Shays? I think it was in Hicksville. They had metal and hardcore shows in the late 90's. I had a similar incident there watching a friends band one night. This {censored} just shouldn't be allowed to happen....but people let it happen cuz no body cares anymore or even realizes how it's going to severely damage there local scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr.Picklebottom Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 thats terrible. mostly idiots listen to idiotic music, though. it was kinda predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kidbs Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 The ppl I work with won't understand what a show is ...they'll think I was just in a fight club of sort. My lip is purple right now and you can tell it was hit pretty hard Im thinking about just saying I was playing football and took a shot they'll understand that better than i was at a concert when some guy went to deck my friends gf...plus Im not the kind of guy that needs to stroke my ego I'm on phone I gotta get goin so ill ttygl Just don't tell them it happened at a show. You were assaulted while walking down the street by a group of thugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary Cohn Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 It's also weird that "gangs" started cruising around concerts as of late too. Legions of douches with different colored bandanas, Nike cortez's, etc. Again, it's the hardcore kids I see doing it the most. I never saw that {censored} at either of the Pantera shows I've seen. And they're always white trash, WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RiffDaemon Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 This is why I look forward to Prog Power USA every year. You try to mosh or do anything that remotely resembles aggression, and you will get tossed by gargantuan security guards. But then again, most people who would openly punch people in the face at a show won't be paying the $130 for the two-day pass to this festival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mseriously30 Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 I've been to a show recently and found this to be the norm. It's not cool. Not at all. There's usually a gang of about 10-15 of the 130lb bad asses. They usually have one guy that's 200lbs whom they seem to call in when they have their hands full. Cool thing though is that I witnessed some pwnage the night I was out. These 10-15 dudes messed with the wrong 2 guys. The 2 guys looked pretty unassuming and chill, but after getting hit a few times each by the gang of douche bags I watched them both just snap and just start throwing hay-makers at any skinny kid within arms length. Pit stopped and those two stood in the middle the rest of the show. Backed all the little bitches down. I had to smirk...it was pretty funny. There just seems to be too many angry kids with huge chips on their shoulders these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ruppert240 Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 There just seems to be too many angry kids with huge chips on their shoulders these days.this.I've never been much of a pit guy, but when I was a kid, it was all about fun, not hurting people.I've never been messed with until the last year or two. I'm a big guy and people normally just leave me alone. Now it's like these little {censored}s target me or something. It's like they egg you on and then try to get 10 of their little friends to jump you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Reauchambeau Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 sounds like a typical hardcore show from the 80-90's. people have become more tame imo. I got slammed so hard one time I lost half my moler as I was taking a drink of beer, there was a rugby team at this gig. I'm a big guy and these guys were huge. I went mental for about 2-3 minutes, elbow smashes to the face, i even buried a guys face into the monitor at the front of stage. I guarantee I got some payback. I almost lost my eye and consequently had to have surgery after being jumped by a gang, trying to save my friend who was getting the beatdown of his life. it goes with the territory I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members exafro Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 umm honestly at a hardcore/metal show most likely yeah, long island has gangs of kids that go to shows together to start fights and beat up people who say something back to them. Its sad, I don't goto shows to dance or watch ppl dance, I goto a show to watch the musicians and the music itself. Unfortunately theres less and less places taking chances on these kinds of shows for this very reason. So not only did they hurt me physically, they're also hurting my chances of playing shows locally. Are these those lame straight edge gangs? Or just an offshoot of those pussies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sheik_Yerbouti Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 "I went to a concert last Saturday night, I didn't get laid, I got in a fight, uh-huh... it ain't no big thing..."Sorry, couldn't resist! Dude, that blows. It's pretty much a regular occurrence at concerts these days, and not just hardcore or extreme metal shows. I had to sling some little {censored}er into a brick pillar at a damn Candlebox show a while back for "moshing" (at a {censored}ing CANDLEBOX show!) into and destroying some little nerdy dude and his girlfriend, and it seems to happen at damn near every club show I go to these days. What the {censored} is up with show security today? I always see these rocked-up pretty boys standing around with their thumb up their ass like they're afraid to mess their hair up while this {censored} just keeps going unchecked unless someone in the audience does it for them, then half the time, the person that finally {censored}ing loses it and starts putting foot to ass ends up getting kicked out, if anyone.Not my favorite band in the world, but the Red Jumpsuit Apparatus guys used to come and hang out at our gigs in Middleburg when they were in town (they live down there), and they're really cool guys that we got to know pretty well. They did a gig a few months ago at a local club and my bass player & I went to check it out & hang out, but the pit was so {censored}ing brutal (again, at a RED JUMPSUIT APPARATUS show! ) that all these little teenage girls were getting wiped out all over the place by these spin-kicking pseudo-ninjas and we both looked at the head security dude just standing there watching with his arms folded & he just shrugged it off. We ended up wading in and just started throwing forearms & t-boning the {censored} out of them until THEY went to security and cried about US, only to have Mr. Useless McRoid-tits shrug at them the same way. What the {censored} are they paying these dicks for?!I don't get it, I mean, I'm gettin' waaay too old for the pit, but I'm an OG freakin' Pit Fiend from WAY back, and there was always a "code" in the pit - you kept all the fun INSIDE the pit as best you could, swinging fists or feet was a one-way ticket to a group beatdown, and if someone gets knocked down, you pick them up and/or give them the chance to get up, now it's just a bunch of spastic mini-thugs looking to cheap-shot anyone and everyone they can and, usually, get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa4x12er2 Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 I was honestly so {censored}in shocked and angry that I just left and drove off after I grabbed towels. I normally don't retaliate because most of those douches have problems with other ppl I know and they goto shows in throngs of 10-20 and just gang up on ppl like what happened to my friend Yeah until you kill one of them. Then those 10 or 20 will scatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RSBro Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 Odd. After our show I just grabbed some beers and went outside on the deck. So no fighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Steve the Hero Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 So my old band played a show up in Rochester, the headliners were CDC and the Miles Between so it was pretty much a bro hardcore show. During the Miles Between I was just standing off towards the side away from the mosh pit and some jacked skinhead who was about 6 inches shorter than me either kicks or elbows me in the jaw. My jaw was broken in two places and by that point I'm just startled and walk outside to avoid further hits. Long story short, I drove home to Buffalo (1 and a half hour drive) then sat in the hospital for 3 hours to be seen to find out that my jaw is fractured in two spots and I need surgery to get it wired shut. I had a wired shut jaw for 7 weeks because some late 20s early 30s asshole had to flex his muscles in the pit.. hardcore shows are stupid, ive since left that whole "scene" I feel your pain man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members yourguitarhero Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 Interestingly, I've never seen this at a show in the UK. Saw Sikth at King Tuts - that was a heavy pit, too much for me! But it all stayed in the centre and people were helping folk up, no punching either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ruppert240 Posted September 7, 2010 Members Share Posted September 7, 2010 . I had to sling some little {censored}er into a brick pillar at a damn Candlebox show a while back for "moshing" (at a {censored}ing CANDLEBOX show!)dude some 50+ year old biker dude tried starting some {censored} with me at a candlebox show a few weeks ago. he ran into my pregnant wife and when i told him to mind his {censored} he got all pissed off. he kept giving her the evil eye when he'd walk by to get beer. I finally told him to get the {censored} away from us, then he came back and bumped into her again. dropped him like a sack of bricks and got escorted out by security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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