Members ~Abstract~ Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Or a lunchbox Diezel? THAT'S what I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 echo that I really appreciate that my friends! I would really get in trouble if I posted the email. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chad_sux Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 I really appreciate that my friends! I would really get in trouble if I posted the email.Gary But it's ok for you to post that the amp is coming? I don't get it...is there some inside info in the email that we can't see, or is it something else? Not that I don't believe you that it's coming...just seems strange that you can boast about an email form Mesa about a new product, but you can't actually provide an email. Not trying to be a dick here, just curious as to why you can't post the email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 But it's ok for you to post that the amp is coming? I don't get it...is there some inside info in the email that we can't see, or is it something else? Not that I don't believe you that it's coming...just seems strange that you can boast about an email form Mesa about a new product, but you can't actually provide an email. Not trying to be a dick here, just curious as to why you can't post the email. There's a relative anonymity posting on a message board. If he posted the email, MB could possibly narrow down who leaked the info. There may have been cost discussions in there too. I don't mind not having the email...I don't think he would leave any important details out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 This is correct in all accounts. There's a relative anonymity posting on a message board. If he posted the email, MB could possibly narrow down who leaked the info. There may have been cost discussions in there too. I don't mind not having the email...I don't think he would leave any important details out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chad_sux Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 There's a relative anonymity posting on a message board. If he posted the email, MB could possibly narrow down who leaked the info. There may have been cost discussions in there too. I don't mind not having the email...I don't think he would leave any important details out... Fair enough I can see that. Gary, are you a dealer or customer on their mailing list? Even without the email, I believe you..haha. I'm pretty excited about this. I also want to try the and the Baron Amps Snot Watt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 I didn't 'boast' about it. I was asked and simply told the truth as to where I got the information. But it's ok for you to post that the amp is coming? I don't get it...is there some inside info in the email that we can't see, or is it something else? Not that I don't believe you that it's coming...just seems strange that you can boast about an email form Mesa about a new product, but you can't actually provide an email.Not trying to be a dick here, just curious as to why you can't post the email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Fair enough I can see that. Gary, are you a dealer or customer on their mailing list? Even without the email, I believe you..haha. I'm pretty excited about this. I also want to try the and the Baron Amps Snot Watt. Dealer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chad_sux Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Dealer That makes even more sense. Still, pretty sweet. Did they give a release date on it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 21, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Fairly soon the news will be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carvinlegacy99 Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Meh if they really wanted to sell some amps they should release a 6v6 lunchbox mk2c+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thenakedarab Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Meh if they really wanted to sell some amps they should release a 6v6 lunchbox mk2c+. Your avatar makes it terribly hard for me to criticize you by pointing out the stupidity of your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carvinlegacy99 Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Your avatar makes it terribly hard for me to criticize you by pointing out the stupidity of your post. So you're saying that they wouldnt sell more 2c+'s than recs? I know it'll never actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thenakedarab Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 So you're saying that they wouldnt sell more 2c+'s than recs? I know it'll never actually happen.Well, I wasn't so much talking to that point, but considering that Rectifier production has already far surpassed MkIIC+ production it would be a safe bet. In fact Recto production may have surpassed total production of all Mk series amps in their entirety. BTW, that does not mean one amp is superior to the other, it's more a credit to the success of the Recto's marketing than anything. The MkIIC+ is a cult classic with metal heads and cock rock fans, whereas the Rectifier series is a market dominating monster that is favored by artists of pretty much every genre that is not mostly acoustic based, including country. And yes, I know some country guys love Mk series amps too, just making a point.But I digress, your original post alluded to Mesa having a problem selling "some" amps, which since the Dual Rectifier came out is about as far from reality as you can get and still inhabit this universe. That is what I was talking about.Also, your avatar, I want MOAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members InnerVision Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Do want. Another amp added to the "want list". FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 If the amp your lunchbox is trying to emulate comes with 6L6's...you should put 6V6's in the lunchbox. If it comes with EL34's, you should use EL84's. imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members grunge782 Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 Been waiting for one of these for a while. Hopefully it actually has the tube rectifier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Filter500 Posted August 21, 2011 Members Share Posted August 21, 2011 If the amp your lunchbox is trying to emulate comes with 6L6's...you should put 6V6's in the lunchbox. If it comes with EL34's, you should use EL84's.imo. Since I like EL34s in mine I guess this works for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted August 22, 2011 Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 Since I like EL34s in mine I guess this works for me... Possibly. My comment was more aimed at the JCA22h which is using EL84's to try and cop tones from a 6L6 amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted August 22, 2011 Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 If the amp your lunchbox is trying to emulate comes with 6L6's...you should put 6V6's in the lunchbox. If it comes with EL34's, you should use EL84's.imo. Why not a single EL34 or 6L6 running in Class A instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ~Abstract~ Posted August 22, 2011 Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 Why not a single EL34 or 6L6 running in Class A instead? Probably a better idea. But then the output tranny would need to be larger and more expensive, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 22, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 Why not a single EL34 or 6L6 running in Class A instead? Take this for what it is worth, which isn't much; a single ended Class A power amp has a tremendous amount of sag when you are running it loud. Maybe with the EL84 tubes, in Class AB doesn't sag as much as the Class A scenario?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted August 22, 2011 Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 Now get your fail in a 25 watt package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OverDriven Posted August 22, 2011 Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 Take this for what it is worth, which isn't much; a single ended Class A power amp has a tremendous amount of sag when you are running it loud. Maybe with the EL84 tubes, in Class AB doesn't sag as much as the Class A scenario?? My understanding is that sag is due to tube rectification not being able to keep a constant power supply available when lower notes are hit. So I'm assuming that in a Class A amp it would also depend upon the rectifier. The THD Univalve, for example, didn't have a tremendous amount of sag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riffy Posted August 22, 2011 Author Members Share Posted August 22, 2011 I have to admit, I don't know enough about the subject to be authoritative on it by any means.But, as a case in point, take a JTM 45 Marshall. Using a solid state rectifier, when you get the volume up on the amp,the power tubes and transformer saturate, which sounds a lot to me like almost the same sag that you get from a tube rectifier as well. Then again, as I said, I am not as well versed in the subject as I need to be to make any type of definitive statements. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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