Members StankNasty Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Are Floyd's a pita? Been playing Floyd guitars since 1989 and if a guitar doesn't have a trem it could be a deal breaker.A Floyd guitar only takes me 5 mins to set up. It's not like it's rocket science. same here If you can't set up a Floyd, you're {censored}ing stupid and probably just found out the Titanic really happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Speaking of Ibanez, they have a couple models with this bridge that really addresses the comfort people associate with Floyds. http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/model-RG921QMF Just looked... they're calling that bridge the Tight-End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mesa/Kramer Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 "Tunning Stability" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lz4005 Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Are you sure they aren't using a U-bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StankNasty Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Just looked... they're calling that bridge the Tight-End. C'mon, you act like Japanese men aren't the biggest pervs ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeadNight Warrior Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 C'mon, you act like Japanese men aren't the biggest pervs ever. As a half-Jap, I'm thinking I can't really respond to that without it going poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 You dont need a bar to use a trem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nerine Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 This thread is stupid. Although I'll add that floyds generally stay in tune quite well. What irks me is that double stop bends and the whatnot go out of tune. You can compensate a bit, but I'd sooner a fixed bridge even though I do like the feel a trem bridge gives me. I only have one guitar with a fixed bridge actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StankNasty Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 I think the biggest thing that ruins Floyds for folks is adjusting the bridge height with tension still in the strings. One slight turn & those blades/posts are {censored}ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cobrahead1030 Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 All bridges have their own sound and feel. A lot of guys like the way trems feel, even if they don't use em. Otherwise fender wouldn't still be putting them on strats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RiffDaemon Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 You dont need a bar to use a trem. This, all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RiffDaemon Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Speaking of Ibanez, they have a couple models with this bridge that really addresses the comfort people associate with Floyds. http://www.ibanez.com/ElectricGuitars/model-RG921QMF Superstrat gas ...... g'dammit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 I'm kind of the opposite; a Floyd on a guitar is likely a deal breaker, though I have an Edge Pro on a JEM copy I'm working on that I plan to Hendrix/Vai the hell out of. The regular bridge with the Floyd appearance seems pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 My point is, why have a feature on your custom built guitar if you won't use it? For guitarists who can have any guitar they want handed to them for free, built and painted how they want, why put a trem on it? Why not build a custom Les Paul and throw in a Floyd just for the hell of it? Maybe using the term PITA was not the right term, but why add the setup time (for whoever sets it up)? Maybe thrash metal guitarists should put Fenders and Dumbles in their rig, "just in case". Obviously I'm being extreme with that jab, but I have to wonder if there is an element I'm not thinking of with unused trems on custom built guitars. A lot of thrash dudes used strats. That gives me another reason to post my floyd'd Im Strat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 67mike Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Easier to bend, biches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rushtallica Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Easier to bend, biches. If it's not locked and if the springs aren't tight, IMO it can be worse because some of the tension of a bend isn't held due to the springs taking some of it. And if the technique isn't tight, sometimes other notes can be heard detuning a bit during a bend. In other words, my playing's obviously not the tightest, so I've run into that problem before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StevePage Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 2 things that put me off floyd roses. 1. PITA to intonate 2. adjusting bridge height, you'll mess the tuning stability if you do it under tension. It's PRS trems for me. Set them up right and your guitar will stay in tune unless you like to be pretty non-musical with tremolos and just violently move the arm up and down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tech21man Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 I can't stand the tunomatic bridge for the feel. There I said it!!! It is just me but the "hassle" (not that it is any...once set up it can remain so either by blocking it or by using the same strings gauge etc) is worth for feel alone, though I tend to prefer what a floyd does. For years guitarist magazine wrote along other {censored} that floyd rose bridges rob tone...I don't know what it robs in what frequency or whatever but I like it! Also Jim Thackery put a floyd on all of his strats, said it was the best trem available and had no trouble doing double stops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miter Gauge Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 I can't stand the tunomatic bridge for the feel. There I said it!!! It is just me but the "hassle" (not that it is any...once set up it can remain so either by blocking it or by using the same strings gauge etc) is worth for feel alone, though I tend to prefer what a floyd does.For years guitarist magazine wrote along other {censored} that floyd rose bridges rob tone...I don't know what it robs in what frequency or whatever but I like it! Also Jim Thackery put a floyd on all of his strats, said it was the best trem available and had no trouble doing double stops! with any kind of floating trem wouldn't a double stop bend pull the non-bent string out of tune or is it so minimal that it doesn't really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdgeOfDarkness Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 If you're really picky you can hold the trem down to compensate. If you have technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tech21man Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 with any kind of floating trem wouldn't a double stop bend pull the non-bent string out of tune or is it so minimal that it doesn't really matter? I find that with stiffer springs it is minimal but YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Crunchtime Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Max Cavalera's guitars - minus two strings because he doesn't use them. I never understood that. Seems like it would {censored} with your neck relief having all the pull on one side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Anomaly Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 2 things that put me off floyd roses. 1. PITA to intonate No. 1. Unlock locking nut2. Intonate like any other guitar, i.e., move the saddle where it needs to be3. Re-lock nut when finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sahlomonic Posted May 14, 2012 Author Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 No.1. Unlock locking nut2. Intonate like any other guitar, i.e., move the saddle where it needs to be3. Re-lock nut when finished. Missing a couple important steps Granted the Floyd Intonation Tool makes it much quicker, but you still have to loosen strings so you can access the screw that holds the saddle in place on the base plate, and not shear the tensioned string. Again, my use of "PITA" was not as accurate, instead "time consuming" is more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -Assy- Posted May 14, 2012 Members Share Posted May 14, 2012 Missing a couple important steps Granted the Floyd Intonation Tool makes it much quicker, but you still have to loosen strings so you can access the screw that holds the saddle in place on the base plate, and not shear the tensioned string. Again, my use of "PITA" was not as accurate, instead "time consuming" is more appropriate. your opinion is wrong kill yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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