Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 I laugh if its funny, but yet I feel nothing but pity. Save your pity for your third world friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seano Porno Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 If you want footswitchable clean the answer is 2x 1987x.It does annoy me when people say "just use your volume pot", in some applications that totally not possible, if you need slick channel changes then the volume pot thing just isnt going to work.You could try getting a clean from switching to the input of the FX loop ( i dont even know if the 1987x has one?!) use an A/B box and then run one side to the amps input, the other side to an EQ pedal then the input of the FX loop. Sorry man but what ya on about??? That's not gonna work!! You go in to the input, then the loop sends the preamp signal out via whatever, and inserts back to the poweramp. how's the preamp signal gonna get to the poweramp with the loop set up like this?? What you CAN do, is to use an A/B switch, have one side go into a lo input on one channel, and the other to the hi input on the other channel. If you wanted certain pedals to affect both sides, they go before the A/B, and obviously if you want specifics on your clean, or specifics on the dirty, they come after the A/B on the relevent signal paths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleBarrel Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 I use a 100 watt plexi reissue, and I gig pretty often. I run it clean, and use a Metal Muff for distortion. As for the volume, I just got one of these, and am trying it out this weekend. http://rockmod335.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=34&products_id=88 it should do the trick of giving you a master volume without having to permanently mod your amp, or send it out anywhere. Plus it's footswitchable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Save your pity for your third world friends. Yeah I have a few of them back in the UK, in Norfolk I think with the inbreeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Sorry man but what ya on about??? That's not gonna work!! You go in to the input, then the loop sends the preamp signal out via whatever, and inserts back to the poweramp. how's the preamp signal gonna get to the poweramp with the loop set up like this?? What you CAN do, is to use an A/B switch, have one side go into a lo input on one channel, and the other to the hi input on the other channel. If you wanted certain pedals to affect both sides, they go before the A/B, and obviously if you want specifics on your clean, or specifics on the dirty, they come after the A/B on the relevent signal paths. You can bypass an amps pre-amp stage and just use the power stage by doing it the way i described. you dont need to use an fx loop as a loop, you can just use it as a direct input to the amps power stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 You can bypass an amps pre-amp stage and just use the power stage by doing it the way i described. you dont need to use an fx loop as a loop, you can just use it as a direct input to the amps power stage. Once you plug into the effects return the inputs are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yeah I have a few of them back in the UK, in Norfolk I think with the inbreeds Bit racist there Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atrox Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Personally, I couldn't handle the volume needed to get my Plexi clone to where i like it. A PPIMV didn't help really either. It sounded amazing still, but I'm just so used to my 2203 (which is actually an amp i prefer over the NMV's. I understand that I have a unique opinion on this). I'm sure I could have made it work with an Attenuator, but my amp guy (the guy who built the amp) offered to convert mine to a 2204 for $50 (It's a simple mod). It's now the amp I want it to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neilrocks25 Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Bit racist there Neil. Sexist, I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seano Porno Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 You can bypass an amps pre-amp stage and just use the power stage by doing it the way i described. you dont need to use an fx loop as a loop, you can just use it as a direct input to the amps power stage. Yes I know, that's what I said. But you were on about A/B switching between the input (ie, into the preamp) and the FX return. That's not gonna work because the preamp is bypassed because signal B's cable is plugged into the return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Yes I know, that's what I said. But you were on about A/B switching between the input (ie, into the preamp) and the FX return. That's not gonna work because the preamp is bypassed because signal B's cable is plugged into the return. I dont know how a Marshalls loop is set up but i know on my old GH50 i could do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Must be a Laney thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Spaced Out Ace Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 @ Japan being third world. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 I dont know how a Marshalls loop is set up but i know on my old GH50 i could do this! No worries, it's a novel idea. However I just true it on my 1987 and no go Seano's idea of using both channels is a good one. Personally I'd still clip the bright cap and run a master volume because the normal channel is excessively dark but it will accomplish a pseudo 2 channel setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 No worries, it's a novel idea. However I just true it on my 1987 and no go Seano's idea of using both channels is a good one. Personally I'd still clip the bright cap and run a master volume because the normal channel is excessively dark but it will accomplish a pseudo 2 channel setup. Yeah i used to do the both channel thing and a/b between them when i ran a 1959. I had an old treble booster on one input as my drive sound, man that must have made the audience deaf! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seano Porno Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 I dont know how a Marshalls loop is set up but i know on my old GH50 i could do this! Parallel loop? That's still not gonna work cos you'll get a % of the preamp signal coming through at all times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Parallel loop? That's still not gonna work cos you'll get a % of the preamp signal coming through at all times... Definitely works on my VC, i just tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 can you not 4CM on plexi's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hotcakes Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 So does a 1887X run on coal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seano Porno Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Definitely works on my VC, i just tried it. How EXACTLY did you wire it up?? I've only ever messed with old "Plexis"..I had a '71 Superbass, which now belongs to our bassist, and both he and our guitarist have a '72 Superlead each. I really think I should buy that Superbass back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 How EXACTLY did you wire it up?? I've only ever messed with old "Plexis"..I had a '71 Superbass, which now belongs to our bassist, and both he and our guitarist have a '72 Superlead each. I really think I should buy that Superbass back! guitar into a/b box. a to amp input, b to fx return (global). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 100 watt Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Superbass > Superlead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members timmyfirst Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 Superbass > Superlead superman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cirrus Posted May 16, 2012 Members Share Posted May 16, 2012 can you not 4CM on plexi's? What would that have to do with it? :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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