Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've always been a proponent of rescue dogs given how much I love dogs. We've adopted several dogs over the years and they've all had their own unique set of challenges.We adopted our girl pug the week before we found out my wife was pregnant with our first son. She has always been kind of neurotic but nothing harmful. Just had her quirks and the occasional accident inside if she wasn't taken outside timely. She also loved our old pug we had at the time. 3 days before our son was born the older pug died unexpectedly so she was an only dog for a while. She seemed to love it. Then we adopted another pug to replace the male that had passed away. The girl pug started getting territorial and peeing in the house. Not good. The more time that has gone on the worse it has gotten. We'll have months where things are normal then she's peeing inside 2 or 3 times a week. This past week she's gotten really bad. She has peed inside several times a day to the point I have to keep her crated because I can't afford to keep paying to have the carpet cleaned. At the same time I'm not going to let my house go to hell since my kids can't be subjected to the problem areas. Of course the girl is really a sweet and loving dog and I feel if we give her up then she may be put down My wife is bawling and honestly I do want to keep her. tl;dr rescue dog developed potty training problems and I'm about to give her back to the rescue org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goop Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Have you taken the dog to the vet? Possible urinary tract infection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Oh {censored}, honestly I didn't even think of that Scheduling an appointment. She seems healthy other than this problem which started when we got the second pug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Elemenope Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 I've had this trouble with every dog and cat I've ever had. This is why I no longer do pets that aren't caged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Murdoch Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby Oh {censored}, honestly I didn't even think of that Scheduling an appointment. She seems healthy other than this problem which started when we got the second pug. Yeah, it could be incontinence. The gf's dog (red Doberman mix) has had that. There's a medication you can get for that called Proin that pretty much stops all accidents. It has a VERY high success rate. I suggest you look into that before doing anything drastic, mang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nightflameauto Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Both our dogs are rescues/shelter pups. No serious accident problems past the retraining dog #2 needed because she was in the shelter too long and had lost her training.It's very possible your new pup brought in a disease that your other pup didn't have an immunity built up to. It's also possible it's a behavior problem developed due to attention split. It may end up being as simple as somehow reinforcing your dog's place in the family/pack after the new addition. I would definitely wait to find out what the vet says. If your vet is anything like ours, they may also have suggestions based on their knowledge of your particular dog's disposition on how you can work with your dog to deal with the problem even if it isn't an infection. Our vets have been really good at helping us through a the few minor problems we've had over the years.Good luck. Hope you get this figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gary666 Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 we have two rescue dogs, one has peed in the house a few times over the years, nothing drastic, good luck! at least it's not a cat cause cat piss smells 100x times worse than dog piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 could be anxiety due to losing a member of the pack and then having a new one introduced too abruptly. could also be due to the baby, and IIRC the wife is preggo again? she (the pug) could be aware of the pregnancy (smell, probably) and is anxious because she knows another change is coming. in a nutshell, rescue dogs *tend* to have fragile attachments at best, and get very anxious whenever big things change within the family. think about what precedes the behavior...is there some kind of trigger, or is it just random? we had a rescue pug that marked in the house; we determined that he was just anxious and wanted to be sure that we knew that he was there (that's what marking is all about to dogs) because he'd been abandoned in the past. it's pretty sad, really. maybe she was given up by her first family after the arrival of a new baby or puppy, and now she wants to be sure you don't leave her behind ultimately, if it's just generalized anxiety there's an option other than crating. for male dogs, you can buy this thing called a "belly band" that, combined with maxi pads, acts like a diaper for peeing problems. i'm sure there's an equivalent for females. we used the belly band on our rescue pug for a couple years, and he eventually quit marking in the house because it didn't do any good. effectively, we used the diaper to force extinction of the marking behavior. most of the time, rescue dogs are given up because of behavior issues...and the owner rationalizes it with stuff like "we're too busy" or "we can't afford to have a dog right now". what's ironic is that most behavior issues are caused by the original owner's lack of training and proper socialization of the dog. don't give up on her. someone else already has, and it wasn't her fault that it happened. figure out what the cause of the behavior is and help her change it. everyone involved will be better off for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members newholland Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 dave- seriously-- kennel the dog during the day for a while. our dogs start piss wars if we don't. you just have to retrain their brains to be disciplined enough NOT To just whiz anyplace. they get the jist pretty quick, and life goes back to normal- or at least it works for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Thanks all, I do appreciate the support and possible solutions. Zach - that makes a lot of sense and gives me a few options to explore in the mean time. Her appointment is scheduled for Monday to do the UA. I'm keeping my fingers crossed it's something treatable and not an emotional issue. We just had our second son last month which I'm sure is making things awkward for her. Ugh, I have the carpet cleaning place on my recent call history too many times Odd to note. I just took her for a walk and it almost looked like some blood came out when she was done urinating! {censored} Apparently that's a classic UTI symptom. I'll call the vet back and see if I can get her in sooner. {censored}, she's gotta be in some pain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by newholland dave- seriously-- kennel the dog during the day for a while. our dogs start piss wars if we don't. you just have to retrain their brains to be disciplined enough NOT To just whiz anyplace. they get the jist pretty quick, and life goes back to normal- or at least it works for us. That's kind of what I thought was going on but the male dog has an iron bladder! He hasn't made a mess inside since we house trained him. She's on the left in this pic: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knucklefux Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 yeah, bloody urine is definitely a sign of a UTI which will certainly cause incontinence.always remember that dogs think like dogs, not like people. when you look at their behavior from their perspective, it can really help you get them to behave the way you want them to. especially pugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 I'll watch the next time she urinates. I wasn't positive since I wasn't really looking for it. If it did have blood then it was faint and not a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Try calling back with the blood story and offer to come in any time. If not your regular vet try someone new. Most vets won't want to have a dog be uncomfortable through a weekend.Visit will include history, physical examination, probably a urinalysis (see if you can bring some urine). Try to keep an open mind. There are a number of reasons this could be happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sleewell Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 sorry to hear that mang, hope a solution is found quickly. yogi has been perfect in that department, if i could just work on the drool he really would be the perfect dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dicky sofa Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 DOn't give up Dave. Take her to the Vet for a Lube & Tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Charlie_Sheen Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 if you're having dog problems i feel bad for you, son.i suggest vet, then crate by day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LA-Ü-RA Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby That's kind of what I thought was going on but the male dog has an iron bladder! He hasn't made a mess inside since we house trained him. She's on the left in this pic: Too damn cute. My male pug still hikes in the house. I thought he was doing better but last week I found 4 spots and about blew a gasket. I tried the belly band and he just pee'd in it. He knows what he is supposed to do but he hikes outside also. I wonder if it is just some weird thing with him. I had him checked for a UTI and he was fine. He is just rotten. I seriously thought he was dumb until I had a dog handler show me some things things about him. Then I realized that he is far from dumb, but he is stubborn. My puppy on the other hand, is a handful and we crate her (and our pug). However, within a few weeks she was going to the door to go outside. No accidents, knock on wood, since a few weeks after we got her. I crate her mainly because she gets into trouble when I am watching her and a big dog can create quite a mess quickly. Best of luck. Vet and crating seem to be the best route at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CaViTaTioN Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Originally Posted by Ricky Bobby That's kind of what I thought was going on but the male dog has an iron bladder! He hasn't made a mess inside since we house trained him. She's on the left in this pic: Dude... It really doesn't get any cuter than that. LOVE pugs. Such sweet dogs. Hope things work out with her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shine Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Doggy mojo sent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Thanks bros and bro-ette! Vet was booked solid for today but first thing Monday I'll be there. I'm really bummed she's had this going on and I didn't know until now. I just got back from walking her and sure enough the last few drops of pee were red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MetalHed Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Sounds like she'll be fine once she gets some meds to clear up her UTI. If the problem persists after her UTI clears up, go back and re-read the posts from Knucklefux, he gave you some really good info/insight into what else might be causing the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 {censored} man, sorry to hear. poor little thing. It sucks when your pups get sick, because they cant tell you whats wrong. Anyways you can ask your vet for medication to cure an UTI, and if things dont clear up over the weekend, to continue with the appointment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ron Burgandy Posted October 19, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 Are there OTC meds for UTI? I'll go pick those up immediately if that's the case. My vet told me she will be fine until Monday but to keep a close eye on her and to take her to the 24 hour hospital if anything changes. If that's bad advice I'll take her to a different vet ASAP, however I will say I do trust our current vet. Man, I thought this was behavioral this whole time. I'm really glad I posted this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kenny Powers Posted October 19, 2012 Members Share Posted October 19, 2012 I mean she SHOULD be fine, but it may be worth it to look into this: CystexCystex contains methenamine, an antibacterial, and sodium salicylate, a pain reliever. Cystex claims to be the only over the counter medication to act not only as a pain reliever, but also keep the infection from getting worse. im just such a spaz about my pups, that if the vet is booked, I will try anything and everything in the mean time lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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