Members Lucius Posted September 19, 2005 Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 So I bought this behringer strat copy to {censored} around with. How do I scallop the frets? Should I use a router? Or try to do it by hand? Cheers Lucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members NITEFLY182 Posted September 19, 2005 Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 various different sized dowels with fine grit sandpaper stapled around them. Work slowly and evenly. Higher frets are very easy. If you want the guitar to still be functional I would reccomend scalloping from 12-2? at the most. Scalloped frets in the chording regionsusually renders an instrument unusable because chords are so easily bent out of tune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thredlok Posted September 19, 2005 Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 oscillating spindle sander would be my choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members choklitlove Posted September 19, 2005 Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 i know how to not scallop frets. it's much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crazy horse Posted September 19, 2005 Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 Originally posted by platpyus59 oscillating spindle sander would be my choice. No question about that. My choice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucius Posted September 19, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 Originally posted by choklitlove i know how to not scallop frets. it's much easier. lol, nice that made me laugh. Thanks for the tips guys. I'll let you know how it turns out. Cheers Lucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonny guitar Posted September 19, 2005 Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 Originally posted by NITEFLY182 If you want the guitar to still be functional I would reccomend scalloping from 12-2? at the most. Scalloped frets in the chording regionsusually renders an instrument unusable because chords are so easily bent out of tune. I totally disagree with this statement. I have my guitar fully scalloped and I play extended jazz chords on it with no problems. I wouldn't put anything less than 10's on it mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucius Posted September 19, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 19, 2005 Originally posted by jonny guitar I totally disagree with this statement. I have my guitar fully scalloped and I play extended jazz chords on it with no problems. I wouldn't put anything less than 10's on it mind you. So I hear that playing scolloped frets you must play with a lighter hand (does that make sense). Cheers lucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonny guitar Posted September 20, 2005 Members Share Posted September 20, 2005 Originally posted by Lucius So I hear that playing scolloped frets you must play with a lighter hand (does that make sense). Cheers lucius Yes to a degree, but I find with 10's or more (I prefer 11's for tone) I can play as I usually do without a hitch....though you can get some cool vibrato on certain chord tones by varying pressure on the corresonding finger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members robt57 Posted September 20, 2005 Members Share Posted September 20, 2005 You'll only get a few thousand instances... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucius Posted September 21, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by robt57 You'll only get a few thousand instances... Or, here is a thought. I could post here and get an answer in minutes without having to sift through thousands of useless posts. Hey thats a good idea. Thanks anyways though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OrvilleGibson Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Make sure you scallop the fretboard, not the frets. John McLaughlin never had a problem playing jazz on a scalloped fretboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members robt57 Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by Lucius Or, here is a thought. I could post here and get an answer in minutes without having to sift through thousands of useless posts. Hey thats a good idea. Thanks anyways though True, but the replies would be limited to the users online at one given time. The search would show a lot more info, and links etc. I only mention it due to being in the same position when I decided to do mine last year. Good luck, and I love mine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members magwitch Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/scal1.htm im new, whats the point of scalloping frets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucius Posted September 21, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by magwitch http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/scal1.htmim new, whats the point of scalloping frets? I really haven't a clue. I just want to do something to my new Behringer Strat! woohoo. Its good enough for malmsteen I think I should try it. Cheers Lucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by OrvilleGibson Make sure you scallop the fretboard, not the frets. John McLaughlin never had a problem playing jazz on a scalloped fretboard. Kinda what I thought at first too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1923ford Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 i think its a mixture of cheese and milk...or something like that, but then again I am no chef!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GTM Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Have you ever seen or played a scalloped neck? If the answer is no, I suspect the next time we see you posting about scalloping a neck, you will be posting "how not to scallop". Do some serious research first. It is a process that is extremely easy to screw up. Then again if you hot to trash your Behringer, scallop away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Code-001 Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 I recommend using a dremel and for the higher frets, a pencil wrapped in sand paper works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koz Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by GTM Have you ever seen or played a scalloped neck? If the answer is no, I suspect the next time we see you posting about scalloping a neck, you will be posting "how not to scallop".Do some serious research first. It is a process that is extremely easy to screw up. Then again if you hot to trash your Behringer, scallop away! I don't have the pic myself, but if someone has the pic of the scallop job that went wrong available, now would be a good time to post it! I like playing scalloped necks...there's another in my future without a doubt...perhaps the neck on my Charvel 1a...hmmmmm.....it's just to bad that I am fairly certain that if I tried it myself I'd be posting my own "scallop0wned" pics...and that would suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Code-001 Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by Koz I don't have the pic myself, but if someone has the pic of the scallop job that went wrong available, now would be a good time to post it! I like playing scalloped necks...there's another in my future without a doubt...perhaps the neck on my Charvel 1a...hmmmmm.....it's just to bad that I am fairly certain that if I tried it myself I'd be posting my own "scallop0wned" pics...and that would suck. That pic was almost funnier than the person who photoshopped those Hostess cakes in YJM's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LesStrater Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by choklitlove i know how to not scallop frets. it's much easier. Need we be reminded... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mongrel876 Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by Lucius So I bought this behringer strat copy to {censored} around with. How do I scallop the frets? Should I use a router? Or try to do it by hand? Cheers Lucius I did my maple board Strat neck a coupla years ago following instructions some guy posted on another web site. Here's the drill: go to Home Depot and buy the 3-pack of double sided files. One side is curved and the other is flat. There are three different widths ranging from (don't have them here to measure) the width of the bottom five frets to the width of the skinny top frets. The middle file works fine in the neighborhood of the 12th fret. Start filing slowly. I went at it so slowly that I did not have to protect the frets with anything other than masking tape. You really don't need to get right up next to the metal anyway. Every so often I would augment the files with some coarse grit sandpaper wrapped around a pencil or one of my fingers to smooth things out. The maximum depth I created was approx. 1/8 inch above the side dot fret markers. Deep enough to be able to fret single notes and chords without touching wood. After reaching the shape (inverted semi-circle) and depth I wanted, I sanded with progressively finer paper with the last sanding with some 600 grit cloth. Then I did some acrylic paint fret markers and sealed the deal with several coats of clear coat wood floor epoxy finish, fine sanding after each coat. Thanks to being out in the case all the time and in lots of cigarette smoke, the fretboard has a nice relic'd weathered look to it. String gauges are double edged swords. Skinny strings allow extreme bends and much easier vibrato. I use very heavy guage flatwounds and have no problems with chords or intonation. Even though I prefer flat radii necks, this 9.5" neck is much better with scallops. The total cost was under $25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucius Posted September 21, 2005 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Originally posted by LesStrater Need we be reminded... lmfao, that is pretty {censored}ing hell air eee uss. Damn damn damn, that is funny. Cheers Lucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jonny guitar Posted September 21, 2005 Members Share Posted September 21, 2005 Project guitar has an excellent tutorial with pictures that you should see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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