Members burton4snow Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 Looking for a tube amp for Classic Rock and Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hoddy Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 Marshall reissue Bluesbreaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Burningleaves Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 Originally posted by burton4snow Looking for a tube amp for Classic Rock and Blues The Blues Jr. is a cool sounding el84 based amps. The earlier models had rattle and revrb noise problems. I think they fixed those problems in the recent MIM models but I dont know for certain. Someone else here will prol' ring in with the answer to that. Have you tried the Peavey Classic 30? More watts (also uses EL84's) and headroom. . Has cool blues and classic rock tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tiger roach Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 BJ's are cool little amps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 Originally posted by burton4snow Looking for a tube amp for Classic Rock and Blues CROSS-POSTER!!! http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1387489 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sideliner17 Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 Great little amp that is surprisingly very loud for a small amp. Sounds great with my strat. With my LP it sounds muddy. I have one of the older models (over 10 years old and no problems). if the newer ones are improved on that I dont think you can go wrong. Also a reasonable price for a solid tube amp. I bought a Marshall 1974X for my LP and unfortunately after about 8 hours use on the thing it has now been sitting with a marshall authorized repair guy for the last 2 weeks with a blown power transformer. Its 18 watts and sounds great when it plays, but after having my fender amps last so long without problems, this has been nothing but a complete frustration to me. Also paid over $2,000 for the amp. Marshall claims that they had a bad batch of PT's and have since corrected the problem, so the replacement should solve the problem. Its got a 5 year warranty so I have time to see or if not sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members joesl8 Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 Originally posted by burton4snow Looking for a tube amp for Classic Rock and Blues I think they excel at Blues but you'll be able to pull off some decent rock tones as well with your pedals. Try them out first because the one I actually got off the internet (to save a buck) was a dog and one (of the few) I played in the store had a broken reverb unit. I have a Vox AC15CC, notorious for breaking down, so I bought the warranty just incase. The 5 year Fender warranty may save yo butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitar-fish Posted September 26, 2006 Members Share Posted September 26, 2006 My experience/opinion: It's small; good clean, but you need a pedal for OD. Kindof a "one trick pony". People are going to start flaming for talking it up so much, but check out the V3112 in my sig, it's quite the little gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members septopus Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Nice amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members favata5 Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 I liked my Laquered tweed blues junior so much I kept it for 3 weeks before returning it to Guitar center,you wanna know why it went back?? It was awesome looking,had a great build and speaker,had a nice warm clean too,,but......I played a Crate V16 Palomino and damn near pissed my pants! The Crate has the warmth,the nice look,lots of balls when push and made in the US ,Dont get me wrong,I liked the blues junior,but the Crate won the battle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 23miles Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by favata5 I liked my Laquered tweed blues junior so much I kept it for 3 weeks before returning it to Guitar center,you wanna know why it went back?? It was awesome looking,had a great build and speaker,had a nice warm clean too,,but......I played a Crate V16 Palomino and damn near pissed my pants! The Crate has the warmth,the nice look,lots of balls when push and made in the US ,Dont get me wrong,I liked the blues junior,but the Crate won the battle! I agree with this 100% In fact, head to head, I thought the Traynor YCV-20 WR was nicer than the Blues Junior, and the Palomino better still. However, I understand from the Fender Forum that there are several mods (i.e. Billm mods) that will really bring the BJ to life. I like the DRRI better than any of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Small,boxy,muddy,middy,with horrible overdrive. And cheaply built from what I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AtomHeartMother Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by tlbonehead Small,boxy,muddy,middy,with horrible overdrive. And cheaply built from what I've seen. You must really hate the Blues Jr. to post that three times. They're decent little, lightweight amps. They really should be modded though as they can really shine with mods. Check out the BillM mods. A tech would probably charge around $100 for the parts and labor. But it all depends on what you want to use the amp for. If it's for bedroom practice, it's way too loud. That's why I sold my modded BJ. If it's for jamming with others or gigging, it'll work well. But I can't help but think that there are better options out there for similar dough. I'd check out: Crate Palamino Carvin Vintage 16 Peavey Classic 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by AtomHeartMother You must really hate the Blues Jr. to post that three times. They're decent little, lightweight amps. They really should be modded though as they can really shine with mods. Check out the BillM mods. A tech would probably charge around $100 for the parts and labor. The tubes in a BJ should allow for mods that approximate the 18-watt Marshall...a killer configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by AtomHeartMother You must really hate the Blues Jr. to post that three times. They're decent little, lightweight amps. They really should be modded though as they can really shine with mods. Check out the BillM mods. A tech would probably charge around $100 for the parts and labor. But it all depends on what you want to use the amp for. If it's for bedroom practice, it's way too loud. That's why I sold my modded BJ. If it's for jamming with others or gigging, it'll work well. But I can't help but think that there are better options out there for similar dough. I'd check out: Crate Palamino Carvin Vintage 16 Peavey Classic 30 The site is slow and my patience is low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burton4snow Posted September 27, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by jerry_picker CROSS-POSTER!!! http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1387489 SO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RUExp? Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Can it be considered cross posting if it's in the same forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarNed Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 I like the BJ. 12 inch speaker moves air well. Real reverb tank. Dirty channel. Light. EL84's are always nice. Standby switch. Plenty of ability to crank it for power tube saturation. Good amp. Having said all that, I still like the Peavey C30 & C50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chunk Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 do the billm tone stack and bias mods. you can get the parts for a few dollars at an electronics store and even a complete n00b like me can do it. the difference is quite noticeable. it went from sounding to :love: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 2deaconblues Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by Chunk do the billm tone stack and bias mods. you can get the parts for a few dollars at an electronics store and even a complete n00b like me can do it. You did the mods yourself then? What was your prior electronics experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Collie Ransom Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Play a V16 Palomino before you put down your money. I kept playing them both side by side and bought the Palomino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dwerlin Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by guitarNed Standby switch. What Blues Jr. do you have they don't come with a standby switch...at least stock they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dwerlin Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by Collie Ransom Play a V16 Palomino before you put down your money. I kept playing them both side by side and bought the Palomino. i did the same thing and bought the Fender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jerry_picker Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Originally posted by RUExp? Can it be considered cross posting if it's in the same forum? Maybe not...what is the HC jargon for running two threads about the same thing simultaneously on the same forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted September 27, 2006 Members Share Posted September 27, 2006 Stock I would have to say that the Crate Palomino is better than the Blues Junior. More presence and a better build quality. The Blues Junior does beat out the Palomino in two areas: The reverb is slightly better with the BJ and the BJ is a little less heavy. But if we're talking about a tweed Blues Junior (better speaker) modded by Bill Macrone (I mailed it to him and he did all his mods for around 120 bucks)...Well, it's my favorite amp and I own about 7 tube amps. Check out his website for more info.... Basically he installs a bias control. Blues Juniors are biased way too hot. Some sort of factory flaw. He also adds orange drop capacitors and reworks the tone stack. Gets rid of the boxy sound. Finally he adds a presence control that really helps get the mud out. It sounds like a "boutique amp" The first item I'd run to if my house was on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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