Members Brittanylips Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Apogee Ensemble This looks awesome - the perfect interface for Logic. Great converters, great pres (the pres in the Trak 2 are top notch), and works seemlessly w/in Logic. How great is that?! (Anyone wanna buy a slightly used FireFace...) -Peace, Love, and Brittanylips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members d. gauss Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 no price? no inserts? no windows Xp? no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gdoubleyou Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Logic/apogee looks like a good pairing to go up against PT. I want to know more. since it's core audio ready, should play nicely with the macintels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brittanylips Posted January 19, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Originally posted by d. gauss no price?no inserts?no windows Xp?no go. Oh, come on! Look how beautiful. Apogee quality + Seemless Logic integration - Don't you just want to lick it?! -Peace, Love, and Brittanylips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Red Winger Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 I think it depends on the price and how well-integrated it really is. I've seen some snapshots that seem to indicate that you have to go into the preferences to trim the pres. If it were set up so that you could trim the pres through the Logic Mixer or Environment windows, that seems like it might be better. Through the prefs, it seems maybe even less convenient than simply calling up the RME mixer from the dock. In otherwords, I'm definitely intrigued, but I'm not ditching my Fireface yet. More info needed. --Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudolf von Hagenwil Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Looks good! No licking audio interfaces here! But it's agog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Red Winger Posted January 19, 2006 Members Share Posted January 19, 2006 Here's what's said about it in the Logic Pro 7.2 Crossgrade info sheet: Integrated support for new Apogee Ensemble interface Logic Pro 7.2 offers integrated support for the new Ensemble Firewire audio interface solution from Apogee Electronics, providing superb Apogee sound quality, mix-and-match expandability, and breakthrough pricing. Multiple parameters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Turner Posted January 20, 2006 Members Share Posted January 20, 2006 Looks very promising. I wonder if you could connect 2 of them together or just witha Fireface.Will it have the same quality as the other Apogee gear ?What's the price ?Could I use it with a G4 ? ( I guess so )I wonder.More info ... anybody ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 BLips, I still have the bitter aftertaste of being a unappreciated Logic PC orphan lingering in my mouth... I used that as my main program for a very long time - starting with Notator on an Atari back in the late '80's, and upgrading along the way through all the Logic upgrades, only to be unceremoniousy dumped along with the other 1/3rd of their user base who happened to be running on PC's. It will be a long time - if ever - before Apple lures me into using Logic again. It was a big step just getting me to buy a couple of iPods - one for me, and one for my wife. But the new Apogee does look like a cool product. Hopefully they will come out with something similar for the PC users of the world. Considering Apple's move to Intel processors, I see little reason why Apogee couldn't do so fairly easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mandoman Posted January 20, 2006 Members Share Posted January 20, 2006 I hear it's $2k. Although being able to control everything directly from the DAW is really nice, I like some level of control and metering on the unit itself. If I ever buy into logic, might have to give this unit a go, I hear Apogee is top notch with their pre's and converters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brittanylips Posted January 20, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 20, 2006 Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe BLips, I still have the bitter aftertaste of being a unappreciated Logic PC orphan lingering in my mouth... I used that as my main program for a very long time - starting with Notator on an Atari back in the late '80's, and upgrading along the way through all the Logic upgrades, only to be unceremoniousy dumped along with the other 1/3rd of their user base who happened to be running on PC's. It will be a long time - if ever - before Apple lures me into using Logic again. It was a big step just getting me to buy a couple of iPods - one for me, and one for my wife. I feel your pain! As you know, Apple's plan (like everything Apple) involves hardware/software integration, which they could not achieve by continuing to support Logic on the PC. Frankly, they have yet to achieve that integration of Logic on the Mac, but are making progress (and this is a step in that direction). And hey, if you're a 2 iPod family, perhaps there's a possibility of luring you into buying one of Apple's forthcoming computer-entertainment systems (anticipated later this year) that will coddle your iPods and run Logic. Just try resisting a bite from one of them apples. -PL&B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted January 22, 2006 Members Share Posted January 22, 2006 Originally posted by mandoman I hear it's $2k.Although being able to control everything directly from the DAW is really nice, I like some level of control and metering on the unit itself.If I ever buy into logic, might have to give this unit a go, I hear Apogee is top notch with their pre's and converters. $2k is what the Apogee guy said as well. I am using Apogee Rosetta 800 converters, and can't say enough nice things about the sound quality. Never used their mic preamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brittanylips Posted January 22, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 22, 2006 Originally posted by UstadKhanAli $2k is what the Apogee guy said as well.I am using Apogee Rosetta 800 converters, and can't say enough nice things about the sound quality. Never used their mic preamps. When Apogee came out with the Trak2, there was skepticism about their ability to produce a mic pre on par with their converters. However, they got some expert expert help, and the pres in the Trak2 are surprisingly awesome, and compare favorably with some high-end classics. Reportedly, the guy who built the pres for the new Ensemble is the same guy who built the pres for the Trak2, and has mumbled that the new ones in the Ensemble are even better. -Peace, Love, and Blips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe BLips, I still have the bitter aftertaste of being a unappreciated Logic PC orphan lingering in my mouth... C'mon Phil... still??? That was about 3 years ago. Are you still using the same computer you had 3 years ago? There's no reason a person can't have a PC and a Mac. I'd guess you already have more than one computer. Didn't you see Apple and Microsoft (Go Seahawks) sitting next to each other at dinner Friday? Can't we all just get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 There are 2 reasons I predict it will be a great addition to, but NOT a killer of the FireFace.1) Price. The Apogee will probably be priced at 2 to 3 times the Fireface, and the Fireface isn't cheap.2) Integration with Logic, but not other apps. Not everyone is thrilled with the all integrated approach, especially those like myself who are unfortunately married to Logic's competitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 Originally posted by amplayer There are 2 reasons I predict it will be a great addition to, but NOT a killer of the FireFace.1) Price. The Apogee will probably be priced at 2 to 3 times the Fireface, and the Fireface isn't cheap.2) Integration with Logic, but not other apps. Not everyone is thrilled with the all integrated approach, especially those like myself who are unfortunately married to Logic's competitor. The Apogee is $1999, and will work with any other OSX audio program that supports CoreAudio, including DP, Live, Reason, etc. etc... (basically all of them except PT). It will use a class compliant OSX driver. B.G. - Apple Compatibility with any CoreAudio software applications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 BTW, I have a Fireface 800, and I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 Originally posted by steadyb The Apogee is $1999, and will work with any other OSX audio program that supports CoreAudio, including DP, Live, Reason, etc. etc... (basically all of them except PT). It will use a class compliant OSX driver.B.G. - AppleCompatibility with any CoreAudio software applications If $1999, I stand corrected. Where did you find that price?I am aware it will work with CoreAudio, but will not have the level of integration with other DAW software that it will with Logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted January 23, 2006 Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 Originally posted by amplayer I am aware it will work with CoreAudio, but will not have the level of integration with other DAW software that it will with Logic. It will have no less integration than any other firewire device does. But it will be the only one with Apogee converters and mic preamps. Apogee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brittanylips Posted January 23, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 23, 2006 Originally posted by amplayer 1) Price. The Apogee will probably be priced at 2 to 3 times the Fireface, and the Fireface isn't cheap.Given Apogee's prices, that's a reasonable guess. However, the reason why the Ensemble will cost only slightly more than the FF, and untypically little for Apogee (given what's in this thing) may have to do with Apple The existence of something like this is so important to Apple's development of Logic on the Mac, it's possible that Apple may actually have subsidized its R&D. If it were an Apogee product alone, it is hard to imagine this low of a price. This is only a guess, I have no direct knowledge of an Apple stake in it. But i wouldn't be surprised. Where the FF has the advantage seems to me in its flexibility. The FF still has way more inputs and outputs, and is very much a swiss army knife of an interface. -PL&B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spokenward Posted January 24, 2006 Members Share Posted January 24, 2006 excerpted Originally posted by Brittanylips The existence of something like this is so important to Apple's development of Logic on the Mac, it's possible that Apple may actually have subsidized its R&D. If it were an Apogee product alone, it is hard to imagine this low of a price.This is only a guess, I have no direct knowledge of an Apple stake in it. But i wouldn't be surprised. I don't see a country of origin on the back panel. And it apparently has an international power supply. Anybody hear anything? This would probably be a high margin item for Apple Store placements. I wouldn't be surprised either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted January 24, 2006 Members Share Posted January 24, 2006 Originally posted by steadyb:The Apogee is $1999, and will work with any other OSX audio program that supports CoreAudio, including DP, Live, Reason, etc. etc... (basically all of them except PT). It will use a class compliant OSX driver. Even though Pro Tools doesn't support CoreAudio, I would imagine it should work fine with Ensemble if the Apogee unit were to be used with it like a Rosetta 800 - as a converter for, say, a Digi 002. Any word on that, steadyb? If so, I see one in my future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted January 24, 2006 Members Share Posted January 24, 2006 Originally posted by Geoff Grace Even though Pro Tools doesn't support CoreAudio, I would imagine it should work fine with Ensemble if the Apogee unit were to be used with it like a Rosetta 800 - as a converter for, say, a Digi 002. Any word on that, steadyb? Well, it has lightpipe an spdif, so I suppose you might be able to go into the 002 digitally. But since it isn't quite out yet, that's just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted January 24, 2006 Members Share Posted January 24, 2006 At US$2000 (or less street price?), this seems like such a great deal to me. I'm already using an Apogee Rosetta 800 with my old Digi001 rig, and am so happy with the sound quality. I've sent a link to several of my friends already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted January 25, 2006 Members Share Posted January 25, 2006 Originally posted by Geoff Grace Even though Pro Tools doesn't support CoreAudio, I would imagine it should work fine with Ensemble if the Apogee unit were to be used with it like a Rosetta 800 - as a converter for, say, a Digi 002. Any word on that, steadyb? If so, I see one in my future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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