Members slodge Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 I'm not looking for youtube clips of the Byrds or George Harrison. I'm more interested in the tone elements of the "Jangle." What types of guitars, amps, and effects do you use to get the tone? (especially in the absence of a 12 string Rick.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaveAronow Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 "Singin a jing and a jangle" [YOUTUBE]Lbh9c0noR4s[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Highway_61 Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 Early ByrdsTom Petty Think D chord with an added g note created by pressing down your little finger, back and forth, back and forth. That should give you some shimmering highs. That's jangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seahorse Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 You can fake that sound with just about anything by using the bridge pickup with a lot of treble; and picking the notes of open chords and suspended chords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slodge Posted September 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 I know who Jangles, I'm more interested in how they jangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GAS Man Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 Early ByrdsTom PettyThink D chord with an added g note created by pressing down your little finger, back and forth, back and forth. That should give you some shimmering highs. That's jangle. Coincidentally, those were the first two that popped into my mind too. [YOUTUBE]z7NwmKC3IR8[/YOUTUBE]Buddy's rendition is just so dang clear - lovely jangle [YOUTUBE]tXkblbJqwn0[/YOUTUBE]Tom Add some early George Harrison[YOUTUBE]etjpcF2X_mY[/YOUTUBE] But beyond trebly, it also has to have a lot of vibe to the tone to meet my def of "jangle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dann-O Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 I would say toaster pickups, and maple bodies, short scale, Vox or Fender amps. Play with bridge and neck pickups together with a clean compressed tone. You can get close with many guitars. Rickenbackers work best but some Fenders and Gibsons with minis can get it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fuzztone Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 You need some compression too.Janglebox is the gold standard but I use a Boss CS-3and it sounds good(the blue pedal in the photo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLCJEYLIBQY&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BeanoBoy Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 My Dano 12 string through the Janglebox compressor oozes jangle. By itself the Dano sounds good, with the Janglebox it sounds FAB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bert-O-325 Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 A danelectro with lipstick pickups into a vox amp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 's mel gibson Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 Lots of treble from both the guitar and amp but still with a hint of bass. Maybe it's not bass. But the low string still has to have a good rounded out twang. This might actually come more from something like a Casino or ES 330 into a trebley amp like a Fender or Vox tube amp. To me "jangle" is from a Ric 12 string but from a 6 string, it's early Beatles which, seems like more "twang" than jangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rusholmeruffian Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 The compression is absolutely key. Otherwise, your high strings will be shrill instead of sparkling. FWIW, you can get great jangle out of a Telecaster, using either both pickups or the bridge pickup alone, with the tone control rolled down to the 4-7 range (depending on pot value and taper). My Squier Pro Tone Thinline with GFS Lil' Punchers is an absolute jangle machine. My other jangler is a Yamaha Pacifica 303-12 II with GFS pickups (6k Lil' Killers in the neck and middle, Vintage Split in the bridge) and special switching that allows me to get the neck+bridge position. In that position, it's pretty delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rusholmeruffian Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 from a 6 string, it's early Beatles which, seems like more "twang" than jangle. Lennon was mainly using his Ric 325 for chording. The twanginess of the first 3-4 Beatles albums comes from George Harrison's Gretsch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scoogs Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 For me, it was quite clear. Rickenbacker + Janglebox + Vox. Now, I'm using a Vox AD30VT.. On the AC30 treble booster setting. It's all the jangle you will ever need. Even though I'm using high gain pups, I can pretty much match the tone on the likes of "If I Needed Someone" type tunes. The Janglebox is pretty expensive. But I knew I would want one even if I got something else in it's place. So I bit the bullet, bought the Janglebox. Haven't looked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slodge Posted September 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 For me, it was quite clear.Rickenbacker + Janglebox + Vox.Now, I'm using a Vox AD30VT.. On the AC30 treble booster setting.It's all the jangle you will ever need.Even though I'm using high gain pups, I can pretty much match the tone on the likes of "If I Needed Someone" type tunes.The Janglebox is pretty expensive. But I knew I would want one even if I got something else in it's place. So I bit the bullet, bought the Janglebox. Haven't looked back. Yeah, I've checked out the Janglebox. But doesn't playing a Rick through a Vox make it redundant? I kinda thought the Janglebox looked to emulate that tone. Byrds, Petty and Harrison are the first ones that come to mind, but I've also heard 80's bands like The Smiths referred to as Jangle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashasha Posted September 19, 2008 Members Share Posted September 19, 2008 Can't believe that REM hasn't been brought up. Perhaps not the strictest defintion, but for my money that's some goddamn jangle now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slodge Posted September 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 I'm not sure why I didn't mention REM with the Smiths in terms of 80s Jangle. But early REM? Hell yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chuck1016 Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 I can fake a good jangle with my strat. I put a bridge-on switch in to get a neck/bridge position. If I use that position and pick just a little further back toward the bridge than usual my chords come out pretty jangly. It's not the perfect solution, but it works, and if you know what you're doing the only cost involved is a $3 toggle from Radio Shack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MichaelSaulnier Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 I think clean 12 string electric through a clean amp is the most "jangle" Carvin makes a number of 12 string models... my brother's 12 string is plenty jangly! He bought his used at a great price. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Scoogs Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 Yeah, I've checked out the Janglebox. But doesn't playing a Rick through a Vox make it redundant? I kinda thought the Janglebox looked to emulate that tone.Byrds, Petty and Harrison are the first ones that come to mind, but I've also heard 80's bands like The Smiths referred to as Jangle. Well, you need the compression to get that Byrds/Beatles jangle, anyways. I've not really tried any other amps with the Ric.. So I can't say. But the Vox does a great job on top of the JangleBox. Though not as jangly, Pete Townshend also uses the Ric 12 on early Who stuff. Think "I Can't Explain", "The Kids Are Alright". Maybe I'm subconciously trying to justify the purchase, but after I got the JangleBox, I couldn't go back to playing those jingle-jangly songs without the JangleBox on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oldskool Texas Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 All the REM-era stuff coming out of the south had a nice jangle tone (the dBs, Let's Active, etc.), but so did bands like The Three O' clock, Tommy Keene, the Tourists, etc. Between them, I'm not sure there's a common thread of equipment used. Teles, some semi-hollows, Casinos, Gretschs, and Rics, through Fender Twins and Pro Reverbs, Vox, etc. Matthew Sweet is a big Casino guy and he jangles with the best of them; I think he used Orange amps for awhile. Lots of acoustics in the mix as well. Seems to me it's as much about playing style and production value as it is gear and effects. A little delay, a clean amp, a bright pickup, and some sus4 arpeggios on top of strumming, and you're there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aliensporebomb Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 It's an acoustical ringing sound aided and abetted by judicious compression,playing particular chords (think D major!). Single coil pickups, not humbuckers - telecaster/rickenbacker. EQ curves - bright, but not piercing. Does that describe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members littlemilo Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 I know who Jangles, I'm more interested in how they jangle. Spurs. Spurs and a bouncy horse. Although you may get some jingle mixed in with your jangle. [YOUTUBE]6nSZGXk92So[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HeatherAnnePeel Posted September 20, 2008 Members Share Posted September 20, 2008 Roger McGuinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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