Members goldenhose Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 if this question is retarded I apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goldenhose Posted November 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 what exactly is a tube screamer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 what exactly is a tube screamer?please apologize Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members atxstrat Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 electro harmonix makes a few overdrive/distortion pedals with 12ax7s in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Many, many different brands and models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 yes, there are quite a few, actually. Here's some that are quite good: Electro-Harmonix English Muff'n Overdrive http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/ElectroHarmonix-English-Muffn-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=153335 Radial Tonebone Plexitube Distortion Pedal http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Radial-Tonebone-Plexitube-Distortion-Pedal?sku=153935 Seymour Duncan SFX-03 Twin Tube Classic http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Seymour-Duncan-SFX03-Twin-Tube-Classic-Preamp-Pedal?sku=159341 Vox Cooltron Big Ben Overdrive http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Vox-CT02OD-Cooltron-Big-Ben-Overdrive-Pedal?sku=150326 there are LOTS more out there, these are just a few off the top of my head that I KNOW are good... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Here's a Marshall preamp in a stomp box: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members book_of_lies777 Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 yup - the Tonebone series are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jasco Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Do they make distortion pedals with actual tubes? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jasco Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 what exactly is a tube screamer? It doesn't have a tube in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mistersully Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 there are lots i have 2 ehx tubezipper... it's also an envelope filter... but you can just use it for distortion... my favourite pedal and seymour duncan twin tubes classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jthomas Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Ibanez tube king, Rocktron silver dragon, Blackstar amplification pedals.... to name three more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tlbonehead Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Ibanez tube king, Rocktron silver dragon, Blackstar amplification pedals.... to name three more I have a Silver Dragon. It is one of the worst dirt pedals of any type that I've ever owned. I have a first series Tube King, which is ok. I used to have a Dean Markley Overlord that wasn't bad for a low voltage model. I'm kind of eyeing the Blackstar dual distortion model to use with my Windsor Studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 There most be 3 dozen different brands that all offer tube-driven overdrives. My problem is the best of them do a great job of copping a high-gain preamp tone (because the best of them are high-gain preamps packed in a pedal, high voltage and all), but none really do a great job of mimicking power tube crunch. I still find that SS overdrives to that better. SIB (fav of mine)MesaBudda (buzzy)VoxIbanezTube Works (defunct) (hate their stuff)ChandlerRadialSoldanoMaxonEHFuchsH&K (fav of mine)BehringerEpicenter AudioKingsleyMatchlessBlack CatHot Chili (defunct)Damage ControlRocktronTube DepotElectrosonicGuyatoneEtc.Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goldenhose Posted November 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 thats cool. Im gonna see if one of these pedals give my hybrid amp more of a tube sound. The more tubes the bettter right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members docjeffrey Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 thats cool. Im gonna see if one of these pedals give my hybrid amp more of a tube sound. The more tubes the bettter right? Some of those supposed tube drives are really just for show. A 9 volt DC battery is gonna heat up the filament of a 12AX7? Even the Vox Tonelab is a bit misleading. There's a little LED light behind the tube to make it look like it's glowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members goldenhose Posted November 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 how about these guys? Are they really using the tubes? http://www.ehx.com/products/english-muff-n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jimwratt Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 how about these guys? Are they really using the tubes?http://www.ehx.com/products/english-muff-n yes they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 thats cool. Im gonna see if one of these pedals give my hybrid amp more of a tube sound. The more tubes the bettter right? I think you'll be disappointed. The tube power amp is the reason so many tube amps are highly regarded. The crunch of a vintage Marshall, the bite of a cranked BF Fender, etc. are a combination of preamp and poweramp saturation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Roy Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 Some of those supposed tube drives are really just for show. A 9 volt DC battery is gonna heat up the filament of a 12AX7?Even the Vox Tonelab is a bit misleading. There's a little LED light behind the tube to make it look like it's glowing. I was wondering about that. There's 2 ways to run a tube, I believe they call it hot plate and cold plate voltage. I have a ART mic pre with a cold tube in it. A decent mic pre but the tube does nothing to warm up the sound and when overdriven sounds like fizzy poop. How many of the above pedals have 'hot' tubes in them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wyatt Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 I was wondering about that. There's 2 ways to run a tube, I believe they call it hot plate and cold plate voltage. I have a ART mic pre with a cold tube in it. A decent mic pre but the tube does nothing to warm up the sound and when overdriven sounds like fizzy poop. How many of the above pedals have 'hot' tubes in them? There are a lot of designs now that actually use high plate voltages (200+ VDC) and two tubes for multiple cascading gain/clipping stages. B K Butler (Tube Works and others) uses the starved plate design where the distortion actually came from running the tube at such a low voltage that it couldn't function well and would distort. And yet, some only actually use the tube in the output buffer stage, just to add a little warmth to the tone, but not in the gain/clipping stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sqrnookle Posted November 19, 2008 Members Share Posted November 19, 2008 I was wondering about that. There's 2 ways to run a tube, I believe they call it hot plate and cold plate voltage. I have a ART mic pre with a cold tube in it. A decent mic pre but the tube does nothing to warm up the sound and when overdriven sounds like fizzy poop. How many of the above pedals have 'hot' tubes in them? It's quite interesting: small devices that use tubes (such as these pedals and stuff like the Behringer tube DIs) often don't run the tubes at a high enough voltage to get them to light up in any significant fashion (although they still are being used in the circuit). What Behringer in particular found was that guitarists/musicians just... didn't believe that the tubes were working if it didn't look like the tubes were lit up. So what they - and everyone else does - is backlight them with appropriately coloured LEDs. Basically, it's all psychological reinforcement for those people who listen with their eyes. (and on that note - just because something has tubes in it... don't mean it has to sound any good. I guess that means that it's also a trick they can use to make people think it enhances their sound.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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