Members DavidJones529 Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Justin Timberlake is absolutely an entertainer, and is a hell of a musician to boot. Huh? He's a hell of a musician and Michael Jackson isn't? I don't even think he's even much of an entertainer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Huh? He's a hell of a musician and Michael Jackson isn't? I don't even think he's even much of an entertainer! There are millions of people out there who say you're wrong. But you've never been to one of his shows anyhow, so... It's confounding that you would attempt to present an assessment of what goes on at shows you don't attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidJones529 Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 It doesn't matter what YOU think -- there are millions of people who say you are wrong. You've never been to one of his shows so you have no clue what he is. How do you know I've never been to one of his shows? It matters to ME what I think . (That's what these forums are all about. We all spew what WE think.) And I certainly wouldn't take the time to hate on him (got sucked into to it ), just surprised that he's considered a "hell of a musician". No big deal. Best of luck to all his fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 How do you know I've never been to one of his shows? It's obvious. Want to try and pretend you were? Go ahead and tell us the details... I'll go one further and say that, although you want to give opinions, you haven't even listened to the CD. Kid Rock is a hell of a musician, he's out there knocking massive audiences on their asses unlike you. It matters to ME what I think . Take that to bank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidJones529 Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 It's obvious. Want to try and pretend you were? Go ahead and tell us the details... I'll go one further and say that, although you want to give opinions, you haven't even listened to the CD. Kid Rock is a hell of a musician, he's out there knocking massive audiences on their asses unlike you. Take that to bank... First off I was talking about Timberlake. Second, yay for Kid Rock. I'm happy for him and his fans and I'm thrilled that you love him so dearly. Third, what the hell are you knocking me for? What the {censored} are you doing? Why did you start this thread? To say "hey Kid Rock is great and successful and you and me...we're all losers!" Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Well, like they say, you know what opinions are like (we have have one, presumably). And like Billster said, you can be a great musician and a great entertainer. One doesn't preclude the other. I find Yo-Yo Ma to be a great musician, perhaps on a higher level than Kid Rock. But you may feel differently. Nothing wrong with that! I believe Kid Rock to be more of an image-conscious entertainer than a great musician. Now, he may be selling more albums than Yo-Yo, but to me that still doesn't make him a better musician. Probably a better entertainer, though. Are you still not understanding? I can give you more help if you need it. I'm a helper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Michael Jackson: Entertainer So someone who has an awesome voice and can sing flawless harmonies is not a musician? I always thought of MJ as one of the best musicians in the world. EDIT: I was typing this when you were explaning a bit more Jeffski,....sorry, Booshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tedmich Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 he's successful thus the pinnacle of human evolution; you losers need to sacrifice your women to his superior seed! Its the human RACE and He WON! The fact that his "music" sucks like a turbo molecular pump is immaterial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 First off I was talking about Timberlake. Same thing applies. He's out there pleasing fans and making big things happen. How about you? I find Yo-Yo Ma to be a great musician, perhaps on a higher level than Kid Rock. But you may feel differently. Nothing wrong with that!I believe Kid Rock to be more of an image-conscious entertainer than a great musician. Now, he may be selling more albums than Yo-Yo, but to me that still doesn't make him a better musician. Just curious, have you spent any time with Kid Rock's music or ever seen him play a show? I always thought of MJ as one of the best musicians in the world. Amen, all weirdness aside that guy set the bar. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wingfijm Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Of course it sounds "instantly familiar" - it's a crass and disgusting splicing of two of the most over played (but very good) songs ever. It's this type of mentality that makes me glad that I never pursued a professional career in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 it's a crass and disgusting splicing of two of the most over played (but very good) songs ever. It's this type of mentality that makes me glad that I never pursued a professional career in music. HAW! Using this song to rationalize your career or lack thereof? Oh man, now I've truly heard them all. It just gets more bizarre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidJones529 Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Same thing applies. He's out there pleasing fans and making big things happen. How about you? Did you even read my posts? Seriously, what are you doing? I get that Kid Rock is successful, in fact, I already knew that before. But what does that have to do with you? What are you doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Just curious, have you spent any time with Kid Rock's music or ever seen him play a show? Even better: I've done work for companies that endorse him and/or his bandmates. I've hung out with him on a few different occasions, most recently last summer. I may actually have a photo of me and him around here somewhere. And it's fine for you to like him. No one's making fun of you, I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've done work for companies that endorse him and/or his bandmates. I've hung out with him on a few different occasions, most recently last summer. I may actually have a photo of me and him around here somewhere. That's not what I asked. And meaningless in the context of what I did ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boosh Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've hung out with him on a few different occasions, most recently last summer. I may actually have a photo of me and him around here somewhere. Aaahhhh that was you in the Waffleplace,..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm not taking sides here. I'm quite frankly too busy to do that right now. But I'd love to know where someone like Prince falls in this apparent "dichotomy" of musician vs. entertainer. He dances. He wears outrageous clothes with sequins. He makes movies. He produces. He plays many different instruments very well. He sings really well. He writes songs, some of them extremely good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khatru Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't like Kid Rock. Isn't he the same person as Kevin Federline? Regardless, he needs a beat-down from a bunch of emo kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 That's not what I asked. And meaningless in the context of what I did ask. Oh, sorry. Yes, I've seen one of his shows here in LA, from backstage. Maybe I missed the full Kid Rock experience from back there. I've never sat in the seats, and while I've been given his albums, I've not spent a lot of time listening to it, no. Why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't like Kid Rock.Isn't he the same person as Kevin Federline?Regardless, he needs a beat-down from a bunch of emo kids. I think Kid could probably just lift his armpit at the emo kids and make them cry and run away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cooterbrown Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Of course it sounds "instantly familiar" - it's a crass and disgusting splicing of two of the most over played (but very good) songs ever. It's this type of mentality that makes me glad that I never pursued a professional career in music. It's your type of mentality that makes everybody glad you never pursued a professional career in music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DavidJones529 Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 That's not what I asked. And meaningless in the context of what I did ask. You seemed to miss what I asked, which was what Kid Rock has to do with you and what you are doing re pleasing fans and making dreams happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I've not spent a lot of time listening, no.Why do you ask? Just wanted to establish whether you had actually listened to the music or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jeff da Weasel Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Oh. Sure, I have. Just not my cup of tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kurdy Posted August 19, 2008 Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 I'm not taking sides here. I'm quite frankly too busy to do that right now.But I'd love to know where someone like Prince falls in this apparent "dichotomy" of musician vs. entertainer. He dances. He wears outrageous clothes with sequins. He makes movies. He produces. He plays many different instruments very well. He sings really well. He writes songs, some of them extremely good. I had a pretty lengthy response typed, but realized I wasn't logged in. Anyway, the short answer is that he's both equally. Definitely a rarity in the music world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Music Calgary Posted August 19, 2008 Author Members Share Posted August 19, 2008 Oh. Sure, I have. You just said that you've not spent time listening to it. Now you say you have? OK. I'm skeptical now. Sorry. I'd be surprised if you have any meaningful knowledge of the music contained on those albums. The people who listen to this album seem to like it. I've not heard any complaints from people who bought it. To me that is impressive, I wish I could make albums that people loved en masse like that. Lessons to be learned from this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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