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  • #31
    i am sure it is not a high fret
    but some sort of resonance cancellation


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    • #32
      i am sure it is not a high fret
      but some sort of resonance cancellation


      Yup. My 335 had a sort of resonance problem on one note, mid-neck, not severe. I talked about it with the luthier who did a set-up for me, before and after, about it. It was a resonance issue, NOT a high fret, and nothing could be done.

      Mind you, the note just resonated for a shorter time than the others. It wasn't completely dead. And the rest of the guitar is exceptionally alive-sounding.

      So I've kept it. And I'm using the past tense because it isn't really a problem any more. Maybe still there a little, but it seems to have diminished. Or maybe I'm just less anal about it.
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      • #33
        Tune the G string exactly a tone sharp and see if the dead spot moves. Then you'll know if it's a fret or a resonance issue.

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        • #34
          Weird. I've never played a guitar with a "dead spot"

          I own 30 guitars too.


          Try an acoustic and play an F/F#/G on the A string. One of those notes, unless you're very fortunate, will be louder and more dead-sounding than its neighbour with a pronounced 'thunk' and little or no sustain. Every guitar will have a wolf-tone somewhere; in fact every acoustic, stringed instrument will to a greater or lesser degree, although this is usually less noticeable on a solid-body. The resonant frequency of the fretted note and that of the guitar body cancel each other out producing an unpleasant and unmusical note.
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          • #35
            Yup. My 335 had a sort of resonance problem on one note, mid-neck, not severe. I talked about it with the luthier who did a set-up for me, before and after, about it. It was a resonance issue, NOT a high fret, and nothing could be done.

            Mind you, the note just resonated for a shorter time than the others. It wasn't completely dead. And the rest of the guitar is exceptionally alive-sounding.


            I believe that this is what's happening with this guitar. He's taking it in today to have a tech take a look.
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            • #36
              It's possible there is a gap under the fret tang. You may be able to wick some Superglue underneath the fret to fill the void and improve the sustain.
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              • #37
                Has he put new strings on it since he bought it? It could be a kink in the string. Slide your finger along the bottom of the string. You can sometimes feel the deformity.

                I would at least try replacing the G string if he as already put new strings on it before trying anything else. If it's an actual dead spot caused by phase cancellation you could try a heavier gauge string for the G.
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                • #38
                  Well, I never heard of the resonance thing but you learn something new everyday.
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                  • #39
                    since in never up that high on the neck no way.
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                    • #40
                      Update:

                      According to the guy who owns it, the "luthier" was off for the holidays, so a "tech" took a look at it. He lowered the pickups and raised the stopbar. I personally haven't seen it or heard it, but apparently it's much better now.
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                      • #41
                        i am thinking of changing the saddles, upping the gauge to 11 and changing the springs.

                        Would this help the resonance problem at all?

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                        • #42
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                          • #43
                            i am thinking of changing the saddles, upping the gauge to 11 and changing the springs.

                            Would this help the resonance problem at all?


                            Beats me. The only "solution" I know of is a Fatfinger, but I've never tried it.
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                            • #44
                              would putting a capo on the headstock help lessen the dead spot?

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                              • #45
                                would putting a capo on the headstock help lessen the dead spot?


                                Possibly. If it is a resonance related dead spot.
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