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  • When you play half step down notes change,, how do you play half step down?

    Do you have to relearn guitar to play half step down? I mean how do guitarists play standard and half step down back and forth? YES I'm a noob. Can someone enlighten me on this topic? I mean isn't it confusing the fact whole fretboard changes when you play down tuning?

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    E A D G B E becomes Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb... simple as that
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      E A D G B E becomes Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb... simple as that
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        Quote Originally Posted by Bumhucker
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        E A D G B E becomes Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb... simple as that




        but if you change tuning... How do you play with other people? It's half step flatten.

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          Quote Originally Posted by Bumhucker
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          E A D G B E becomes Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb... simple as that




          but if you change tuning... How do you play with other people? It's half step flatten.

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            Quote Originally Posted by privatejoe
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            Do you have to relearn guitar to play half step down? I mean how do guitarists play standard and half step down back and forth? YES I'm a noob. Can someone enlighten me on this topic? I mean isn't it confusing the fact whole fretboard changes when you play down tuning?




            I think I get what you're saying.



            Take a player like myself for example. I'm a "fair at best" IMHO guitar player, with little musical theory background. I don't sight read music notation (although I have worked on it before) but manly rely on tab. So for me, it's about the position not the note. If someone were a sight reader that mentally translated the musical notation to the actual notes, then I could see where that could be a bit of a conundrum and all notes would have to be played one step higher on the neck. I think for a lot of drop tuning players, they simply play the guitar. I occasionally will grab a baritone and try out a few songs (usually surf style) doing the same thing. Just using the same positions and then the tone is 5 steps down.



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              Quote Originally Posted by privatejoe
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              Do you have to relearn guitar to play half step down? I mean how do guitarists play standard and half step down back and forth? YES I'm a noob. Can someone enlighten me on this topic? I mean isn't it confusing the fact whole fretboard changes when you play down tuning?




              I think I get what you're saying.



              Take a player like myself for example. I'm a "fair at best" IMHO guitar player, with little musical theory background. I don't sight read music notation (although I have worked on it before) but manly rely on tab. So for me, it's about the position not the note. If someone were a sight reader that mentally translated the musical notation to the actual notes, then I could see where that could be a bit of a conundrum and all notes would have to be played one step higher on the neck. I think for a lot of drop tuning players, they simply play the guitar. I occasionally will grab a baritone and try out a few songs (usually surf style) doing the same thing. Just using the same positions and then the tone is 5 steps down.



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                Quote Originally Posted by privatejoe
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                but if you change tuning... How do you play with other people? It's half step flatten.




                Most of the time the entire band / all the people jamming tune the same, so you don't really think about it. You just play as if tuned normally, it just sounds half a step lower.



                It's often done to accommodate the singer, lower tunings than a half-note are mostly used for a "heavier" sound.
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                  Quote Originally Posted by privatejoe
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                  but if you change tuning... How do you play with other people? It's half step flatten.




                  Most of the time the entire band / all the people jamming tune the same, so you don't really think about it. You just play as if tuned normally, it just sounds half a step lower.



                  It's often done to accommodate the singer, lower tunings than a half-note are mostly used for a "heavier" sound.
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                    Quote Originally Posted by privatejoe
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                    but if you change tuning... How do you play with other people? It's half step flatten.




                    Think of it as the opposite of putting on a capo. I'd just translate the key for those accompanying my playing. (for example, if you had a keyboard player)
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                      Quote Originally Posted by privatejoe
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                      but if you change tuning... How do you play with other people? It's half step flatten.




                      Think of it as the opposite of putting on a capo. I'd just translate the key for those accompanying my playing. (for example, if you had a keyboard player)
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                      Well Dick, it's got a good beat, and I could dance to it, so I give it a 10!
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                      • #12
                        Don't think about notes. Think more about fingering patterns and positions.



                        If you're in the right key and you know the fingering pattern for the scale you want then you don't really care about what the notes are, unless of course you're tying to read a chart.
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                          Don't think about notes. Think more about fingering patterns and positions.



                          If you're in the right key and you know the fingering pattern for the scale you want then you don't really care about what the notes are, unless of course you're tying to read a chart.
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                            Quote Originally Posted by FlyingV
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                            .... so you don't really think about it. You just play as if tuned normally, it just sounds half a step lower.




                            That's essentially what I was trying to say in my fist post as well.
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                              Quote Originally Posted by FlyingV
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                              .... so you don't really think about it. You just play as if tuned normally, it just sounds half a step lower.




                              That's essentially what I was trying to say in my fist post as well.
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                              HCEG Existentialism: I buy guitars, therefore, I am.
                              Well Dick, it's got a good beat, and I could dance to it, so I give it a 10!
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