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  • #16
    That's a tsl


    The TSLs sound way different than DSLs. They aren't the same thing with independent EQ/more channels.
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    • markj6506
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      Very true i could not get a classic rocl sound out of a tsl to save my life, my dsl 40 was great when it worked and i loved the gain knob on the clean channel because i could get a great crunchy blues!


  • #17
    Like **************** I'm sure. The digital reverb in my Vintage Modern sucks. The amp's designer didn't want it but management forced it on him.


    The digital reverb in my JVM sounds great!

    The "Vintage Modern's" have a digital plate reverb. It sounds fine for what it is, but if you want a lush reverb you will be disappointed.

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    • #18
      No sense of humour I see. Not all Bugeras fail either but the fire extinguisher jokes are WAAAAYYY more fitting to these Marshall amps than to those German wonders.




      I think you mean the early combo's the heads are fine. I completely trust most Marshall products out of a hundred + gigs I never had 1 fault.
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      • #19
        Everything can fail.

        Marshall has a fine track record, and has and always will be, used by countless touring pros and weekend bar bands.

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        • #20
          Yeah it was the DSL combos that had issues (overheating) but the heads were fine, though they're not exactly the epitome of build quality but good enough.

          I really don't know why Marshall keeps making so many models. You'd think the two channel JVMs would've replaced the DSL by now as they're pretty much what people really wanted when it comes to features. Don't know how they sound tho.
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          • #21
            The TSLs sound way different than DSLs. They aren't the same thing with independent EQ/more channels.


            They are not so different, but thats the option for dual tone controls in the JCM2000 range. I am not worried about the dual controls more the switching between clean and classic modes



            Also I like the look of the joe satriani JVM
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            • #22
              .... I like the look of the joe satriani JVM


              This!

              I already have a JVM 410H, but the "Joe Satriani JVM" looks very cool!


              Marshall JVM410H Joe Satriani Edition $2600.00

              Joe Satriani Edition Amplifier Head Features:

              * Modified version of the classic JVM410 amp, voiced to Joe Satriani's tonal specifications

              * Four noise gates help you dial in a defined tone on every channel

              * Clean channel is the same design found in the Marshall LM6100

              * Orange crunch channel is the same design found in the Marshall JCM800 (2203)

              * Red crunch channel is similar to the Marshall AFD100 in AFD mode

              * Overdrive channels sound more dynamic and open, thanks to a re-designed power supply

              * "Mid Shift" control on OD1 and OD2 shifts the midrange focus for extra tonal versatility

              * 12AX7 preamp tubes, EL34 power tubes

              * Footswitch included

              * MIDI input for configurable switching and control

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              • #23
                seperate EQ would have been great but I do like the addition of the resonance.an actually mid shift knob would have also been cool...**************** the reverb
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                • #24
                  The TSLs sound way different than DSLs. They aren't the same thing with independent EQ/more channels.


                  No they don't, I've owned the TSL100 and DSL100 multiple times and side by side. The differences are negligible and indistinguishable when EQd more or less the same. If anything, the TSL sounds tighter with the lead channel engaged!
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                  • #25
                    ?

                    I never once had a problem with my DSL I have no idea what you are talking about. I see so many touring bands with them and they never have a problem.


                    Some one who plays classic rock at pub gigs, or for rehearsals.


                    Initially they had a pc board that would break down and become conductive causing the failures pictured, they would burn up!
                    The board was replaced by a better version.

                    Also, they really need to make the modes for each channel footswitchable.

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                    • #26
                      I really had no idea that EVERYONE was asking for a digital reverb on DSL's.


                      who knew?
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                      • #27
                        No they don't, I've owned the TSL100 and DSL100 multiple times and side by side. The differences are negligible and indistinguishable when EQd more or less the same. If anything, the TSL sounds tighter with the lead channel engaged!


                        This is interesting. Years ago, a friend brought me his DSL100 to replace the OT with a Mercury Magnetics one he bought for it. I played it for a few minutes before I did the swap, because I'd never played one before. From what I remember, I was disappointed by the flubbiness of it. It didn't strike me as a tight, modern sounding amp at all. However, to be fair, I should have spent some more time with it to be able to form a proper opinion. Just recently I tried out a TSL100 in a local store. It sounded okay, but seemed kinda fizzy and gritty. I admit that I didn't turn it up very loud, so that's probably why. I am currently trying to work out a deal for a dead mint DSL100. I'm hoping that I'll like it once I spend some time with it, and get to play it loud.

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                        • #28
                          Initially they had a pc board that would break down and become conductive causing the failures pictured, they would burn up!


                          Don't forget...
                          - Rectifier that overheats, unsolders itself and and arcs
                          - Tube socket solder joints breaking loose... arcing again
                          - Fail-prone output jack switching that could take out the entire output transformer
                          - Arcing prone, non-fusible screen resistors
                          - Oscillating power tubes
                          - Thin PCB to which arcing burns holes
                          - Connectors developing intermittency or breaking their solder joints: arcing... again.
                          - Powering the delicate low voltage circuit from filament supply: Plate-filament short toasts everything. And as if you would even need that bad luck, couple that to a PCB design flaw that easily allows screen supply to arc into the filament supply.

                          It's like a record of how much fail you can compile to a design.
                          Honestly...this is not music... it is hatred and self loathing expressed with loudness.

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                          • #29
                            Initially they had a pc board that would break down and become conductive causing the failures pictured, they would burn up!
                            The board was replaced by a better version.

                            Also, they really need to make the modes for each channel footswitchable.


                            Mother****************ingthis. My biggest complaint about the DSL. Front panel is great, which makes for a great studio amp, but is very limited when playing it live, unless you just want two channels like most of us.

                            However, there are always way of modding it to make it footswitchable.
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                            • #30
                              I like these upgrades!! Looking forward to test drive this amp.
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