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  • #16
    Are you boosting it?

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    • #17
      Get rid of it. This isn't rocket science. If you've turned the knobs and still hate the tone, it's not worth it to keep beating your head against a wall. Sell it and get something you will like.


      This, So this.
      Laney's are often bright amps. Great for a band not so good at home.
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      • #18
        This, So this.
        Laney's are often bright amps. Great for a band not so good at home.


        A Laney with the treble at 0 is not bright, actually it's pretty muffled at that point. You just need to start there and stop once you get the amount of highs you need. It will be a pretty low setting, but that's how they work.

        The same happens with Mesa Marks (but on the opposite side) : they're pretty muffled until you find out you have to runs your bass at 0-2. Then they're awesome.

        There is a lot of user error when it comes to Laneys. They're not like Marshalls where a 5-5-5 on the EQ is a good starting point. Their tone stack is really different.

        Of course, this might just not be that amp for him, that happens with any amp. There is a thread right now with a guy struggling with a 5153, which is regarded by many - myself included - as a great amp. Not every amp will work for every player, but the "ear piercing" thing is user error.
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        • #19
          sell Laney, get 5150.
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          • #20
            you mentioned you've got pedals, have you tried boosting it with one?
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            • #21
              I don't see why you can't just trade it for a 5150.
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              • #22
                TS9. Do not use the boost on the amp.

                Dynamics high, tone below 5. Keep the Watts knob above 5.

                Bass knob pulled, I don't care for the other 2 tone shifts, but that's just me. I run a pretty flat EQ'd soloing tone on the lead channel, and a slightly lowered mid tone on the rhythm/crunch channel.

                If you can't find a tone you like, sell it. This amp is not like a 5150, though it is Laney's entry into the modern high gain market.
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                • #23
                  buy a blackstar, much nicer amps!
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                  • #24
                    buy a blackstar, much nicer amps!


                    lol...

                    Actually I was just playing my little HT-5 rig tonight at TV volume thinking what an awesome little amp it really is. I'm running it through a great cab (Boogie Thiele) and some really nice effects gear so it's a rig, not just an amp but it's a stellar little home setup. Much better than something like a Tiny Terror for home jamming.
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                    • #25
                      lol...

                      Actually I was just playing my little HT-5 rig tonight at TV volume thinking what an awesome little amp it really is. I'm running it through a great cab (Boogie Thiele) and some really nice effects gear so it's a rig, not just an amp but it's a stellar little home setup. Much better than something like a Tiny Terror for home jamming.


                      Although i agree with you, I was only trolling as hard as i could.

                      But the HT-5 is amazing for home use, i ised to play it through a 1960a cab!
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                      • #26
                        Although i agree with you, I was only trolling as hard as i could.

                        But the HT-5 is amazing for home use, i ised to play it through a 1960a cab!


                        Yes... my troll-dar went off hence the "lol" part.

                        I don't know if I'd buy any of the other Blackstar stuff. I'd have to play some of the bigger HT's but the little one sure is a great practice amp.
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                        • #27
                          I would trade for a 6505, maybe with cash on their end! If it ain't working for you, move on.

                          If you want to try, here's something I do every so often.

                          Go rent a rehearsal studio for a couple of hours. Take all your gear and a couple of your favourite guitars and fiddle with your stuff for a while. I've uncovered some really cool tones that way.

                          I'd also reconsider your cab; Laneys love Marshall cabs, so I'd start there!
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                          • #28
                            Ola Englund got an amazing tone from the ironheart, although through its own cabinet. Tight and dry but defined at the same time.



                            And maybe this will help with the tweaking



                            It kind of gets close for that almost 5150/VH hybrid you'd expect, even on its single tracks. He did...reply to a friend of mine that he'd take the AMT stonehead over the ironheart any day though!


                            Does your whitebox have a retractable back panel? You could try making it semi open back and tweak from the beggining...
                            Pull your tone knob and volume knob on the guitar back a bit. Don't use the onboard boast toshiro warned about, it is not a tube screamer style boost and something went severly wrong with the design as a laney tech admitted through e-mail that it does hit the first gain stage TOO hard (keep it really low and gain low on the amp if you like what it does on the sound).


                            Of course there is always the sollution of trading it for a 5150 and be done with it!
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                            short answer: no...

                            long answer: no way..."

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                            • #29
                              I had a JSX. I loved the thing till exactly 2 days after the return window ended and then I noticed the "cocked wah" thing. After that I hated it. Couldn't stand it. I tried everything short of tearing into it and modding it. I spent a small fortune on tubes, speakers, more tubes, more speakers, boutique boost pedals, blah blah blah.

                              Finally I sold it to a dude in Canada. He loved it. I was rid of it. The world was a better place.

                              The take home point is get rid of the thing as fast as you can and get something that makes your soul sing.
                              Originally Posted by Elemenope


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                              Originally Posted by RSBro


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                              • #30
                                I think as most people have said, Laneys really arent a "plug 'n play" amp, take everything you know about EQing and amp and throw it straight out of the window because theres nothing else out there that works like a Laney. I had my first VH back when i was 23 and i didnt like it, i found the features confusing and i couldnt get my head round dialling it in, 3 years later i bought another one and absolutely loved it, but it was on after i'd spent the time and got advice on speakers and the way the EQ works.

                                I found the Ironheart the same, i tested the amp pre-release about 18 months ago and the guys at Laney had it dialled in so well it absolutely floored me, but after tinkering for a few minutes i had got totally lost in the amp! It does have a lot of tone shaping features and the range of tones is quite vast but all of those tones are very Laney. Maybe you're not getting on with the Laney voicing? Its something that is an acquired taste and it isnt for everyone, but you hear that core sound in everything valve that Laney make.

                                As for the on-board boost, i've never come across the problem that a few forumites have, yes i have tried it maxed out on the lead channel with the gain maxed out and i didnt have a problem. I've found the boost really useful, especially at lower volumes. I think those experiencing problems may be pushing a lot of bass frequencies as well as gain and what they should remember is that the boost boosts all of the frequencies.
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