Members steadyb Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alndln2 Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Looks like they got rid of the dongle and went serial like Sonar, good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 WOW! This new package is LOADED with features at a much lower price than before!It includes all the Jam Paks, and Soundtrack Pro also! At $499 brand new, I'd say Apple is going to sell these like hotcakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dylan Walters Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm surprised to see the omission of a competive upgrade on the order site. Still, they are packing a lot of software together for 500 clams and I must say that I'd be open to trying it out if they offered a competive upgrade... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted September 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 At $499, that is a competetive upgrade. The old Emagic Logic Pro competetive upgrade was $699. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes -- no more dongle! My biggest complaint about Logic is now gone! And they cut the new price in half: Buy New: $499.00 Upgrade from Logic Pro or Logic Platinum/Gold 5 or 6: $199.00 Upgrade from Logic Express: $299.00 The best value in DAWs is now twice as good. I'm looking forward to checking this out. steadyb, will you be doing any demos in the LA area? Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members steadyb Posted September 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 steadyb, will you be doing any demos in the LA area? yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Cool. When you know the details, could you please let us know where and when? Thanks. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zeronyne Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 OK, of the million new features, I found some especially interesting ones: The distributed computing engine can now offload third party plug ins (as opposed to just Logic plugs) to slave computers. This is great, although I'm hoping I won't be hitting a ceiling with my new Mac. Haven't read the manual yet, but it seems like the Rewire implementation will be much nicer. Environment is still there (thank Bono). Looks like Mainstage will be a nice competitor to Guitar Rig as well as synth racks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dylan Walters Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Wow, I just found a link to the Apogee Duet: http://www.apogeedigital.com/products/duet.php! Must....wipe...drool....from....chin.... The idea of getting an Apogee interface with mic preamps for $500 seems *very* hard to pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Dylan, there's a discussion about it here: Gorgeus new apogee interface Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dylan Walters Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Thanks, Geoff . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbognar Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes -- no more dongle! My biggest complaint about Logic is now gone! And they cut the new price in half: Buy New: $499.00 Upgrade from Logic Pro or Logic Platinum/Gold 5 or 6: $199.00 Upgrade from Logic Express: $299.00 The best value in DAWs is now twice as good. I'm looking forward to checking this out. steadyb, will you be doing any demos in the LA area? Best, Geoff I was planning on selling my... ahem... dongle to someone who wanted to upgrade to a $999 piece of software. My timing couldn't be worse. With a $199 upgrade, I may have to consider getting a Mac - how ironic... Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mandoman Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'd like to see some of the 3rd party pluggin manufacturesfollow suit and cut their prices in half too... Waves, I'm looking atyou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seclusion Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Couple of new plugs in there. Hints about some vintage plugs. $200 is a steal, just hope the integration with 7.2.3 is good. Doesn't talk about it being a 64 bit app, or using lotsa ram. Man look at the content, all the plugs wholly crappin goofy balls! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members modul8 Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 In the Logic Pro 8 specs under "Production Powerhouse" it states: "Internal audio resolution: 32-bit floating point; 64-bit precision where required" I would have to assume this pertains to plug-ins and such. The app is still compatible with many of the last G4 machines produced and rightly so. I think we will have to wait some time before they go full 64-bit. By then, perhaps DSD would be a viable option...? Automation resolution is 32-bit which is nice to see. Somehow, I don't see being able to take advantage of that with out using a system such as the EuCon... If only Euphonix would throw us a bone in the form of a scaled down MC without the touch screen and perhaps fewer ubercustomizable buttons that could be configured from the host machine. Sub $3000.00 would be nice Ideally, it would be a scaled down, yet well thought out version of the system 5-MC. Not exactly Euphonix market territory, but, the folks who need their low volume, high dollar systems are still going to need them. I have to imagine there is a market for a sub-$3000.00 unit that can be something more than what is currently available in the control surface arena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Philter Posted September 12, 2007 Members Share Posted September 12, 2007 Now if Apple would just make a more configurable mid-range desktop system. I've been toying with the idea of leaving Apple products behind, but this might change my thinking. Seeing that they aren't abandoning Logic is worth a lot to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members amplayer Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 Now if Apple would just make a more configurable mid-range desktop system. I've been toying with the idea of leaving Apple products behind, but this might change my thinking. Seeing that they aren't abandoning Logic is worth a lot to me. +1 It really irks me that if you want to run your brand new Mac Pro with HDDs in a Raid 0 config, you have to fork out a whopping $999 for a RAID card to support it. On my PC with ASUS P5 mobo, the included Intel controller does Raid 0 for no extra charge, and works wonderfully as an audio drive with 4 Seagate SATA II drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbognar Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 OK, of the million new features, I found some especially interesting ones:The distributed computing engine can now offload third party plug ins (as opposed to just Logic plugs) to slave computers. This is great, although I'm hoping I won't be hitting a ceiling with my new Mac.Haven't read the manual yet, but it seems like the Rewire implementation will be much nicer.Environment is still there (thank Bono).Looks like Mainstage will be a nice competitor to Guitar Rig as well as synth racks. Maybe I didn't look closely enough or in the correct place, but where did you see that the Environment is still there? Also, with single window view, did they do away with floating windows, screens sets and such, or did they hang a more user-friendly skin on the app, but leave the back room available to veteran users? Thanks Pete Oh - here it is: http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/logicpro/specs.html I guess I wonder if you can have multiple instances of edit windows open, or if they allow you to only view one at a time, under the arrange page..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 Maybe I didn't look closely enough or in the correct place, but where did you see that the Environment is still there? You can read all you want to know about the new version in the PDF manuals here: http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/logicpro/ I looked at the chapter on the Environment. It looks pretty much the same. It's not necessary anymore to deal with it directly, but you can access it if you want to. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pbognar Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 You can read all you want to know about the new version in the PDF manuals here:http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/logicpro/I looked at the chapter on the Environment. It looks pretty much the same. It's not necessary anymore to deal with it directly, but you can access it if you want to.Best,Geoff Thanks Goeff - after getting off my arse, I also found this too: http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/New_Features_in_Logic_Pro_8.pdf It does appear that aside from a few new features, the big thing is a new arrange window skin hung on the existing app. This is probably an attempt to make the app easier to configure, digest, help with workflow, save/prevent trips to the environment window, use terminology which is more logical, and revamping the menu hierarchy... I suspect much of the core code is the same... (which isn't a bad thing) I'm all for making Logic easier to use initially and fixing the workflow. Having existing features available under the covers when they are really needed is an added plus. Two things will come of this, even if they didn't fix outstanding issues: 1) They will sell more Macs (they are even addressing the Emagic PC refugees with the generous cross-grade) especially to those who would dedicate a non-internet machine for the sole purpose of creating/recording music. 2) The competition will have to adjust their prices - Cubase/Sonar/Pro-Tools/Digital Performer. I am not a Mac fan by any means, but I remember many years ago, selling my 286 box, to buy an Atari 1040st so I could run Notator. Ideally, the application should come first and the platform second. I would learn the Mac OS along with the application. This is not easy for me. If they would have kept the price at $999, I could have dealt with it, but halving it, and then for me, as a Emagic customer, to pay $199 has got my head spinning. I know I have to look at the total cost of ownership, not to mention the (rarely used) items I'd have to sell to get a Mac, but this app is very provocative now! Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alndln2 Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 2) The competition will have to adjust their prices - Cubase/Sonar/Pro-Tools/Digital Performer. Why? Their already the same price or cheaper, and Sonar users in particular already have everything Logics offering with a $100.00 upgrade coming in Sonar 7 soon without buying new hardware . Logic was the most expensive host app out there, now they came down to reality. While the value is nice with the included instruments and all, most people have better 3rd party stuff by now. This "value" of added stuff will mainly benifit new users and people crossing over to a Mac to buffer the over priced hadware shock. Like a lot of PC users, this offer isn't luring enough for a couple of reasons, Logic doesn't appeal to most of us to begin with and nor does Apple hardware. The only lure I see here is Logic PC holdouts and new users and Mac Logic users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 I am not a Mac fan by any means, but I remember many years ago, selling my 286 box, to buy an Atari 1040st so I could run Notator. Ideally, the application should come first and the platform second. I would learn the Mac OS along with the application. This is not easy for me. If they would have kept the price at $999, I could have dealt with it, but halving it, and then for me, as a Emagic customer, to pay $199 has got my head spinning. I know I have to look at the total cost of ownership, not to mention the (rarely used) items I'd have to sell to get a Mac, but this app is very provocative now! And of course these days, all current Macs are PCs too. Same deal -- you can access Mac's Windows side if you want or skip it completely. It's up to you. Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Geoff Grace Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 Oh and to follow up on Craig's Logic Pro 8!! thread... Originally posted by Anderton:Logic Pro 8!! No, it's not out yet. Got your attention though, eh? What I really want to do here is gauge the sense of the Logic community. Are you happy with 7 and don't care about 8? Are you really torqued that 8 isn't out yet? Do you have a wish list of essential features? In general, are you happy with the level of support Logic is getting, or are you tempted to switch to DP, Cubase, Live, Pro Tools, Tracktion, etc.? Or have you switched already? Inquiring minds want to know! Originally posted by Geoff Grace: stability is at the top of my wish list for any piece of software these days. Most "must have" features have been implemented by everyone, and the cool bells and whistles that may be left just aren't as important as stability. Next in line on my wish list would be to streamline functionality. I use Pro Tools partly because of its straightforward interface. Digital Performer's consolidated window is also a good step in the right direction. Well now that Logic Pro 8 is out, it certainly looks like Apple has streamlined functionality; and they've also seemed to learn a lesson from Digital Performer's consolidated window. If it's stable too, they've got my money! Best, Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sventvkg Posted September 13, 2007 Members Share Posted September 13, 2007 I'm highly impressed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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