Members slap happy drums Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hot off the Presses: College Grad sues her Alma Mater cause 3 months after graduation she hasn't gotten a job yet. yep , for real. What a precedent that would set. http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/08/03/new.york.jobless.graduate/index.html NEW YORK (CNN) -- A recent college graduate is suing her alma mater for $72,000 -- the full cost of her tuition and then some -- because she cannot find a job. Trina Thompson has sued her alma mater, Monroe College of New York. Trina Thompson, 27, of the Bronx, graduated from New York's Monroe College in April with a bachelor of business administration degree in information technology. On July 24, she filed suit against the college in Bronx Supreme Court, alleging that Monroe's "Office of Career Advancement did not help me with a full-time job placement. I am also suing them because of the stress I have been going through." The college responded that it offers job-search support to all its students. In her complaint, Thompson says she seeks $70,000 in reimbursement for her tuition and $2,000 to compensate for the stress of her three-month job search. As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. But Monroe's career-services department has put forth insufficient effort to help her secure employment, she claims. "They're supposed to say, 'I got this student, her attendance is good, her GPA is all right -- can you interview this person?' They're not doing that," she said. Thompson said she has fulfilled her end of the job-search bargain, peppering companies listed on Monroe's e-recruiting site with cover letters, r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members zildjian@consol Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Welcome to the dog eat dog real world, now go find your own job, I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kabaalk Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 There's only thousands of IT jobs (for which GPA isn't much of an issue) down in D.C. I can understand how the Bronx might be experiencing a shortage of jobs, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members slap happy drums Posted August 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 As a nation we seem to have really lost touch with the idea of personal responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kabaalk Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Personal what now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cross Eyed Mary Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Colleges stay in business by convincing the world you're {censored} without a diploma (even though plenty of idiots have college degrees). This broad learned the hard way that the industry of education is a crock of {censored} and a total lie. If i was the judge, i'd give her the full sum, under the condition that she be stripped of her diploma. After all, if you return a faulty product, you don't get the refund AND the faulty product. Then again, i'm an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carminemw Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 I heard about this on Bob and Tom this morning...who do I sue for not making me a rock star all these years...can you believe what we've become!!!! I don't care who p[romised what! GIVE ME A BREAK! :soapbox:Screw giving her anything and I think they should fine her for bringing in a ludicrous case. Nobody gave me anything in this world for free, and I've been working since I was 14. I studied music for a kazillion years to get a music job. I got one and I made it my own. I studied computers and graphic design on breaks at the gig, I hustled and made it my own. People better start taking responsibility for THEMSELVES and stop looking for someone to blame. Guess what, if there were no IT gigs there and she wanted a gig in that field....MOVE!!! End of story...we're all doing things now that we don't necessarily wanna be doing. You think I like working 3 jobs to help my family get by? But that's what it takes...and I DO IT...end of story! I'm tired of the you owe me bull..it! Go out and make it happen or move over so I can...cause all of my dear friends here are out of work and they're taking anything to survive! I'm sorry I'm so vehement gentlemen...I'm tired of hearing "you owe me" cause nobody owes nobody anything. There's no free lunch in this screwed up economy...just hang on and hope you get thru! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bbe Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Colleges stay in business by convincing the world you're {censored} without a diploma (even though plenty of idiots have college degrees). This broad learned the hard way that the industry of education is a crock of {censored} and a total lie. If i was the judge, i'd give her the full sum, under the condition that she be stripped of her diploma. After all, if you return a faulty product, you don't get the refund AND the faulty product.Then again, i'm an asshole. i agree. if she wants her money back, she should hand back the diploma. i guess it really is true that since everyone now is getting college degrees, you have to get a graduate degree to make yourself look better on paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Colleges stay in business by convincing the world you're {censored} without a diploma (even though plenty of idiots have college degrees). This broad learned the hard way that the industry of education is a crock of {censored} and a total lie. best post i've read in a while. some of the best and most talented (and best paid) people i've worked with over the years had little or no college. and some of the most worthless and backwards mother{censored}ers were grads. reminds me of something a friend of my dad's used to say ... "some people are educated beyond their intelligence." i dropped out of college after 2 years. and i think i do pretty damned well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cross Eyed Mary Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 I heard about this on Bob and Tom this morning...who do I sue for not making me a rock star all these years...can you believe what we've become!!!! GIVE ME A BREAK! True, but society doesn't put constant pressure on you to be a rockstar, and then proceeds to tell you you'll have a guaranteed platinum record if you waste 4 years at a certain rockstar training camp. All the while every rockstar job won't accept you unless you went to this rockstar training camp. Then when you finally go, you STILL can't be a rockstar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cross Eyed Mary Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 best post i've read in a while. some of the best and most talented (and best paid) people i've worked with over the years had little or no college. and some of the most worthless and backwards mother{censored}ers were grads.reminds me of something a friend of my dad's used to say ... "some people are educated beyond their intelligence." i dropped out of college after 2 years. and i think i do pretty damned well. Hot girlfriend, gigs, snazzy drums. A {censored}ing plus to my eyes buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ermghoti II Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 As Thompson sees it, any reasonable employer would pounce on an applicant with her academic credentials, which include a 2.7 grade-point average and a solid attendance record. She's under the impression that a middle-of-the-road GPA and showing up for most of her classes makes her a hot commodity in a {censored}ty job market? The judge should brain her with his gavel and give her the "unique and beautiful snowflake" speech. Oh, and SIIHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members boxofrocks Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 This country need to bring back the value of a high school diploma... Period.. Gotta have a degree to make 10 bucks an hour anymore.. The girl in the article, needs to grow up, just because she has a piece of paper, doesn't make her too good to go wax floors at the grocery store.. Some people get an elitist attitude once they get that paper, all of a sudden, taking out the trash is beneath them. I hope the crash and job loss has been humbling to at least some people. Quote "But no more than two employers have responded to her outreach, and those leads have borne no fruit." I've been putting in 3-10 apps a week and fallow up on them every Monday morning, for 3 months... Not one response.. None.. Who can I sue? At least she got 2 phone calls... Welcome to the machine miss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kabaalk Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Must be a {censored}ty program, though. My school's IFSD program taught that an entrepreneurial and enterprising spirit is absolutely necessary for success. In other words: get a goal and work your ass off for it. Don't need a degree to know that, but they teach it anyway. Her school apparently forgot to mention that part. It's a damned business degree. Nobody just hands you money. And CEM, I totally agree with the refund policy, except that the college provides no expressly stated warranty - meaning you can't just return it. She knew what she was buying, and she also knows she didn't work hard enough if there's a terrible bit of her major doing better than her (in my classes, it was rare for an IFSD major to have more than a 3.0). She can sue all she likes, she'll never win. No money, no friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members shnoodle Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 No one's going to hold your hand through life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1001gear Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 The principle I believe holds true. The girl is protected by the very nature of the rules of civilization. She may unfortunately not have a case - attrition is part of the elegance of "this great system". Just one of those sad but true things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members twosticks Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 I agree with everyone else on here. Personal responsibility is what it's called! I read the story again, she doesn't even have a graduate degree, it's a bachelor degree in business adminstration in IT. I changed my major after I started really sucking in my first major field, then I blew things off for awhile, and I wound up with 2.79 GPA when I graduated with a BA. But what did it for me was when I was involved in different relationships during my later college years and didn't get off my ass and scout for internships and contacts. I blame me, I don't blame the school. WHy didn't she talk with employers in the field she was going into and see what they wanted?? Why didn't she check out the job market before she entered?? Why didn't she look for interships, contacts and leads??? Why is she only looking at the offerings the schools gives her?? Is obvious that she has borrowed the tuition money (government aid) all through school and thought that she would be handed a job at graduation. Now the loans are getting ready to become due and she's looking for the government to bail her out again! We've all heard of the college grads that still work at McDonalds or as waiters because there were no jobs in their fields and that was ten years ago! I like what CEM says, okay, give the degree back then, and as Carmine states, there are NO sure things in life, you want money, you work for it and in these times, it may mean scrubbing toilets. I really hope this gets thrown out. This is beyond absurd! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Longfuse Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 And she thinks this will help her to get a job? Makes her look a little trigger-happy, as far as litigation goes, which would make any employer nervous, surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aenemated Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Hot girlfriend, gigs, snazzy drums. A {censored}ing plus to my eyes buddy. ha thanks man! technically, she'll be the wife in a couple months. rolled through your hood this weekend on the way to and from los olivos for a show. i {censored}in love ventura. such a pretty town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members satman Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 wow ! life's a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CraKaJaX Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 "Life sucks. Get a {censored}in' helmet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members irnbru83 Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Frivolous litigation should result in death. As for college degrees being worthless... I'm not 100% sure, but I am fairly certain that none of you could show up and do my job. Even when it was entry level. This is not a slam against anyone, either. I know for sure that I could not do my job without my degree. Electrical engineering does not miraculously manifest itself in someone's brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cdawg Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 Frivolous litigation should result in death.As for college degrees being worthless... I'm not 100% sure, but I am fairly certain that none of you could show up and do my job. Even when it was entry level.This is not a slam against anyone, either. I know for sure that I could not do my job without my degree. Electrical engineering does not miraculously manifest itself in someone's brain. well, tough guy, i wouldn't WANT to do your job. i don't even LIKE electric trains. besides that, i doubt you'd even know where to find the frozen burger patties at MY job. (hint: they're kept somewhere kold.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members irnbru83 Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 As arrogant as the first statement may have sounded (or read...), I did try to qualify the statement. Bottom line: Not all college degrees are worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members turdadactyl Posted August 4, 2009 Members Share Posted August 4, 2009 This girl needs to get a life, some responsibility, a phone and a computer. She could use the phone to call recruiters. And the computer to search for jobs, e-mail recruiters and other people to network with, and to read articles like this: http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/21/technology/tech.jobs.fortune/?postversion=2009072114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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